New changes for the PC runs and leaderboards
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6 years ago
Chile

A lie?. A lot of runners here did a lot of tests about the differences, I talked with different PC runners. When CHN version came out every people got better times just for the texts over his JPN version runs. You're an amazing runner @orchlon1 but try to be more respectful if you want to argument. When I saw "retarded" it was really annoying.

Edit: Some people told me there's only 20 secs in some categories, but it's still a big difference so it's unfair for JPN runs competing with CHN.

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United Kingdom

Using your point though, why would runners intentionally choose to be on a leaderboard that gives them an inferior position over what is essentially a technicality (shorter text), over a leaderboard (Japanese runs competing against Japanese runs) that gives them a more accurate and fair ranking where the only separation is a players' performance?

Sweden

Can I just point out that most of these JPN runs are actually obselete runs because people have already beaten them with the EA version. So this competition you are missing out on barely exists.

Mongolia

@RebeccaRE I should've put that more delicately, but it is a lie, I'm sorry. If other runners told you that, then they lied.

@FurryWulfz Because it's where the main competition is. And with the boards I'm proposing they can choose to not submit into the main board if they want to, this would just open the door for someone to potentially claim some top spots in the middle of the main copmetition. As I've said even with the handicap, it's still possible to beat my or wusscake's time. Other categories even more so, my nemesis% time could easily be claimed with the japanese version, if someone does beat it, I want that time to beat mine instead of being relegated to a secondary category.

@Darazanjoll I'm saying keep the door open

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Sweden

@orchlon1 Dont you see that even if we would grant you that then eventually in the future JPN would become completly obselete on the "main board".

United States

I think it makes all the sense separating CHN and JPN. By not doing so I believe you are alienating alot of JAP runners simply because they cannot compete when it comes to top times. Remember that all the JPN runners cannot get the CHN version due to strict copyright laws, and that the version is nearly impossible to get. A JPN player can simply not get WR with an optimized JPN version run vs an optimized CHN version run.

Good job mods for trying to include everyone :)

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England

No problem, Julian. Thank you.

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Ceará, Brazil

thats starting to becoming really annoying. JUST RUN THE FUCKING GAME. gez

to me, you can separate all that thing, us, chn, jpn, eu, korean, maori...

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Florida, USA

I'd run if there was an English version category. :P

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Chile

I love this changes ! <3

Ceará, Brazil

@Lillyella in the newest version of Srt it will Works in both of Versions Ch and Jap its the same thing

Ceará, Brazil

@Lillyella the big diference is the text skip in taiwan you have advantage on that, in the Taiwan version can be save 30 secs or more than Japonese version

Japan

@Lillyella

I am not good at English, so I'm sorry if my answer differs from the intention of your question.

Although the Chinese version can give faster time than the Japanese version, on the other hand, it is much harder to obtain compared with the Japanese version.

And, based on the background that Japan's copyright law is stricter than other countries, Japanese do not have the option of obtaining and using the Chinese version by means which is not legitimate purchase.

As a result, Japanese players could not play in the Chinese version. The situation that the Chinese version and the Japanese version are the same category becomes unfair for Japanese players who can use only Japanese version.

Canada

Im curious why the Xplosive or NA Capcom versions are not the required or accepted version for a run. We all know the JPN version is much easier (hard is like easy on the NA/EU) Not to mention in the rules it says you can use EU/NA SourceNext but there is no such thing. The SourceNext version was a JPN only. Or are we expected to run the game in Chinese or Japanese? Or are we allowed to mod the SourceNext which opens a whole new can of worms since the translation patches are buggy

United Kingdom

The category called 'PC' accepts NA/EU region. The ruling states Mediakite and Sourcenext Japanese version, any EU/NA version is fine.

Japan is the standard because it's the fastest version outside of Chinese, which is separated for "political" reasons of which are including no one being able to actually buy copies of the official version, as well as the Japanese being unable to compete on it due to heavier piracy laws.

Japanese version also contains Arrange Mode which is identical to the NA/EU versions Hard mode. So it has more freedom for choice.

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Mongolia

What I don't understand is, if you can easily access the chinese version, why would you choose to run the japanese version, you're running an inferior version of the game, you're running a version where there's no good competition, and you're running a version filled with year old times with basically free world records. Some people are actually regressing from the Chinese version to the Japanese, meaning they had no problem playing the Chinese version before.

Sweden

I've always been against Chinese ver and the reason I stayed with Japanese ver is that I didnt want to gain time just by playing with faster text. I also wanted to play a version that everyone could play insteed of making it impossible for an entire country (japan) to not be able to compete with the rest of us.

I dont know why other people leave the chinese version but I would guess its because of the 2nd reason I gave. They want to compete with everyone and I hope that they are starting to realise that adding china in the first place wasnt the greatest idea. SourceNext and MediaKite was used before china and there was no question at all over their legitimacy. Now we know there are tons of difference Chinese releases and it gets very hard to know which version is a official release and which is a fake. If people go back to MediaKite they dont have to worry/care about these things.

Anyway thats my two cents, people are free to run whatever they want.