Emulator section
2 years ago
Bahia, Brazil

probably if we had an emulators section I think this game would have a lot more runners considering how hard it must be to find a copy of the game and also have one of those old consoles

WitherMin, Art_Izon and 2 others like this
United States

Currently we have a soft allowing of emulators in the form of these rules for the No Warps and Glitchless categories:

  • No Warps Runs that are under 25 minutes long RTA require video evidence.
  • Glitchless Runs that are under 30 minutes long RTA require video evidence.

The idea here is to allow someone to try the game out on emulator, then once they get a decent time, choose if they want to invest in the equipment to needed for playing on hardware with video evidence.

While initially the emulator ban was in place mainly to limit potential cheating by use of TASing tools, we now know that the game is rather sensitive to changes in hardware performance and data access. The game can load stages and cutscenes faster or slower than official hardware depending on the type of emulation. The frames per second could change as well as the rate that buttons can be pressed resulting in gameplay not normally possible. So to keep things as fair and equal as possible, we have stuck with only allowing official means of playing the game. If in the future we find a means of accounting for all of these differences and problems, we can discuss changing the rules.

As for finding the physical game and equipment to play it, I guess that would depend on where you live and how much income you have to spend. At least here in the U.S. (as of this post), You can get a Wii system and the game for under $100 if you find the right deals on eBay. Understandably, that's not always the case depending on where you live as things could be more expensive. For video recording a good quality webcam is plenty fine. In fact we had WRs with webcam quality video before.

I hope this makes things more clear.

Theophania13 likes this
Seattle, WA, USA
WillowPillowTV
She/Her, They/Them
2 years ago

I do understand that you would like to keep it as official as possible however if there were an entire platform category for Emulator that would solve everything. There would be no opportunities for things such as cheating as it would all be within it's own platform. I would love to Run this game as do many people I know so if there is some way you could reconsider allowing emulators fully as their own category.

WitherMin, BOSSCAT and 3 others like this

i understand that there are inconsistencies with the emulation and original hardware for shadow the hedgehog, but i do believe having it's own category for the emulation can solve the issue for the people who just wanna run the game and don't have the equipment to do so to run the game, there can be verifiers for that specific category who can only verify the runs for the emulated game like how y'all do with the og hardware runs and have them there for the emulated only category for sth 2005 (and im specifically talking about every run category that are and are not allowed on this one rn)

Art_Izon and WillowPillowTV like this
United States

(psst, expert mode tournament with emulators allowed on the way, pass it on)

dreamsyntax and Deku_sr like this
United States

It's good to hear there's more interest in learning the game. Although I don't currently have anything more to share regarding Emulated Runs on SRC, I would still like to encourage anyone to interested to start running the game on emulator anyways to see if it's really is a game you want to run. Unless you were already planning to buy the hardware, there's no point in doing so if you don't like the speedrun. I would recommend doing that for any game you are interested in running.

If you haven't yet, you should also join the Sonic Speedrun Discord (link above) which has a channel just for talking about Shadow Speedruns so you can ask questions and discuss them with other runners.

As CFood has mentioned, Community Events can set their own rules and will likely allow Emulator Runs if that is something that interests you.

Georgia, USA

To revive this thread, BlazinZzetti recently released a mod for Shadow the Hedgehog called Shadow SX. And with that, he is currently in the works for a new website and new leaderboards specifically designed for Shadow speedrunning, and the current plan is for emulator runs to be allowed and (most of the time) comparable to console times with the Shadow SX mod. While this leaderboard is not up yet, people are already doing runs with this mod and posting times in our discord. So, if you want an option to run the game on emulator, check out the Shadow SX mod, and join our discord!

Shadow SX: https://www.shadowspeedrun.com/ShadowSX/

Edited by the author 9 months ago
Los Angeles, CA, USA

I have a quick question: are emulators (specifically Dolphin 5.0) are allowed for IL runs? I am interested in submitting a few if possible. Thank you for your time and consideration, mods!

United States

No. Per the game rules:

Runs must be completed on official hardware using official media. (i.e. Wii must use original GameCube disc)

Runs on emulator are banned. Runs not using fully official means of play are banned.

  • Using Nintendon't on Wii or WiiU to play a ROM is banned.
  • Using Nintendon't to run an official disc is also banned.

These rules apply for any run of this game on SRC.

If you are planning to play this game on emulator, I would recommend following the link Azurillkirby posted to set up Shadow SX. Also on that site, you can navigate to the leaderboards we are working on for Shadow SX which does allow emulator runs.

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