The "All Story Moons" category has always been just clipless World Peace, I would have always preferred it to be a subcategory of World Peace rather than taking up its own category name and tab, and it is being seriously run. Especially now that there have been rumors that some of the more serious category extensions might be moved over to the main leaderboards into the Miscellaneous tab, I am suggesting to move the World Peace Clipless category where it belongs, and to rename it into what it is.
The 2 top runners don't even call it All Story Moons in their stream titles. That name is just a legacy of KingJ's beg and the mod who accepted it
honestly All Story Moons shouldn't exist for the reasons you pointed out. it's a version of world piece with old routes. It's was made for people who didn't like clipping or people who didn't want to take the time to upgrade their strats. If they don't want to upgrade their strats and routes then they should just have a bad world piece time.
honestly All Story Moons shouldn't exist for the reasons you pointed out. it's a version of world piece with old routes. It's was made for people who didn't like clipping or people who didn't want to take the time to upgrade their strats. If they don't want to upgrade their strats and routes then they should just have a bad world piece time.
That was my opinion back when nobody came even close to an old clipless World Peace time by Potatti. Now that 2 runners are actually pretty competitive at World Peace Clipless, I think that it actually deserves the blue tab it should have never been anywhere else than.
@IwerSonch I ran No Clips WP after Pottati changed to clips. I got a 1:30:24 No Clips in December (I didn't record then)
You did claim that indeed. Good thing you are now recording your All Purples runs at least
EarthBound actually just used a different solution for this sort of thing. You can now use a filter to only show runs with or without RNG manipulation, but still stay within one category.
I know that the option of adding a filter exists, but a blue tab would be better since WP and WP clipless are actually two different subcategories, and are both sufficiently run.
Honestly i dont think it should be a subcategory. For example, put something like glitchless runs on a game, you wouldn't just put glitchless as a subcategory. Putting "no clips xd" as a subcategory just looks kind of unneeded. Usually subcategories are used for things that are used for all runs, like Amiibo for BotW. It's fine how it is now.
Just because a restriction like "No duplicate moons" makes no sense to add in some categories like Any% and All Missions doesn't mean it doesn't make sense as a subcategory in other categories. An example where I agree with the mods' decision on this is the IL for Cascade, where they split 1.0.0 and post-1.0.0 because it makes sense there and only there. And for why it makes sense to add for World Peace: Because a) it makes quite a difference, b ) it is being competitively run, and c) it isn't arbitrary
Clipping only has an effect on a few routes in world piece and can effect minutes, it is one trick that doesn't affect many kingdoms. The only reason it was added was as you said, KingJ begged for it and a mod accepted it for some reason. It's one thing to accept a runner's begging for an arbitrary category on category extensions, if it's going to happen anywhere that's where it should happen, but a runner's begging should not influence the main leaderboards. There is no strong evidence to prove that it makes makes a strong influence. If those 2 want to compete it, it's perfectly fine but 2 active runners shouldn't deserve a subcategory or variable, much less a category, in a community of hundreds of active runners. Not to mention the runner who begged for it, KingJ, was just struggling with learning it and now has made a tutorial on it after he got the understanding of the trick. He wanted it for a free first to make it look like he had a good time when he didn't want to learn and enforce clipping in his runs.
