Feedback thread
9 years ago
United States

IL leaderboards with subcategories are clunky. There's no obvious way to see all the times listed for a subcategory except whichever one is the default. I think a good way to handle this would be to have some kind of filter at the top of the screen, similar to the full-game leaderboards, that lets you choose the subcategory and see all those times for all IL categories.

Right now, the only way to see a time for a subcategory IL is to click on each level/category combination you care about and see the times for each one individually. Here's a real world example: GoldenEye 007 (XBLA) is about to have a split for controller and mouse+keyboard controls. This is fine for full-game runs because subcategories are useful there. But lets say Mouse+keyboard becomes the default subcategory for IL's. If that happens, there is currently no way to show the IL board for all the controller times. You would have to click on each level+category individually and then click the subcategory to see the controller times for that one stage.

Right now, the only good way we can separate controller and mouse/keyboard is to either create a new leaderboard for it, or create new levels and categories. For example, there are 20 levels in the game, but we could add another 20 just for keyboard/mouse so that way all runs for both controllers and keyboard/mouse are listed at the same time. We could also create 3 more IL categories, so there would be "Agent (controller)", "Secret Agent (controller)", "00 Agent (controller)", "Agent (mouse and keyboard)", "Secret Agent (mouse and keyboard)", and "00 Agent (mouse and keyboard)". But you can already tell that would be pretty clunky, too. There's also the possibility of simply hosting the rankings off-site, like the-elite already does for the N64 game. But I think we want to keep it on sr.c if possible. In short, the IL leaderboards need more attention because the user interface isn't good enough to make things easy.

CycloneFN, Onslatt and 6 others like this
Argentina

@FitterSpace I completely agree with your ideas and I believe they should be implemented. I've seen exactly the same issue at the Spider-Man 2000 IL leaderboard, and I've been scouting for possible workarounds to use in the meantime:

  • One option is to make a single "level" that contains categories for all levels, as seen on the Star Wars Battlefront II IL leaderboard. This way it forces people to enter the fake level and view the leaderboard like you would for a full-game run board.
  • The second option is to use categories instead of sub-categories for levels. For example, if you have Any% for levels and sub-categories for platform, you'd now ditch the sub-categories and have an Any% category for each platform instead. Note that you can do this for ILs only, leaving the full-game leaderboard with sub-categories and the ILs divided by categories on the general IL board.

If your game only runs 1-2 categories for the ILs and you don't have a lot of sub-categories, I think the second option works best and is manageable, but if you already have a lot of categories/sub-categories it grows exponentially, in which case I'd definetely go with the first one.

That being said, it's a bit ridiculous that we need to do this in the first place to have a functional IL board, so I really hope your ideas are implemented.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Onslatt, Quivico and 2 others like this
Scotland

@FitterSpace absolutely agree - over on Streets Of Rage 4, it will only show if there is an Easy difficulty run, yet the most competitive aspect of the game is the Mania difficulty

Onslatt likes this
England

Probably been asked before but can we get a site map, or at least a page or thread that lists all the rules pages instead of having to rummage through the forums. It took me ages to find how to submit a ce request, and then even that page had a link to a 6yo dead thread.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Oreo321, Shac0le, and Quivico like this
Scotland

Can we have some more forum mods please?

Topics like this exist..... https://www.speedrun.com/speedrunning/thread/gp3kk

There are also SO MANY threads every day where the OP gets deleted (either a bot or ban) and we're left with these weird floating answers to "nothing" https://www.speedrun.com/speedrunning/thread/73q3a

It would take two minutes a day to clean up these forums if we actually had an active mod team.....

North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

@ckellyedits you can apply as a Moderator if the Applications are still open. I applied a few days ago and hope to get an answer :D

Minnesota, USA

Does the front page now only show your followed games? Not a fan of that change...

2003041, FitterSpace, and MrMonsh like this
United States

@skyweiss The front page only shows 25 runs at the moment, so if you have your front page set to show more than that, it only shows games you're following. I'm sure it's just a glitch and will be fixed soon.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
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New Mexico, USA

i have min and max followed runs set to 15 each and i only get 12 followed runs and 10 random runs the min and max feature appears to be busted rn

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Australia

Things I wanted: Improved leaderboard moderation features, bug fixes (of which there are numerous), leaderboard translation options, or literally anything else posted in this thread.

Things I did not want: Generic blog posts and needless redesigns

Can't help but feel mute when trying to voice our opinions. The team is clearly working on stuff, but none of it is what we want. Why even have this thread in the first place?

HopeTrash, CycloneFN and 2 others like this
Australia

Speaking of bugs (this is a different post because it is a different issue), N/A times should not show up in Latest Runs: https://imgur.com/a/kBb0auP Would also like to make this an in-built feature.

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French Southern Territories

Im not the first person to say this but please fix the front page. The news section is too big, so the latest runs section and stream is very compressed. Also, the page only shows 10 runs, even though I have it set to show 40 runs.

HopeTrash, Pear and 3 others like this
United States

Earlier I posted about how I think the IL leaderboards need an overhaul and I thought this kind of design would help a lot for IL subcategories: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807451828002095175/810537498761625661/unknown.png

Obviously I'm not a graphics designer or anything so it looks pretty bad, but the idea is there. I'm confident that the site developers could make something similar that looks a lot better than my mock-up. This would be so useful to a lot of speedrunning communities.

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New York, USA

Agreed fitter, I will be pushing this hard if there is no response to that soon. I'm determined to get that added.

Australia

It wouldn't really work if you have a lot of sub-categories. Simply adding the same subcategory menu would suffice fine

MrMonsh likes this
United States

Definitely. I'm fine with whatever changes they make to it, as long as it's easier to view subcategories on IL pages without having to click on each level/category combination.

Onslatt, Merl_ and 3 others like this
Germany

It would be nice if you could mute specific threads. That way you are not seeing a "new and unread" tag on threads you dont care about (as an example the requesting marathons thread or the bots deletion thread)

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Scotland

Yeah IL boards are a mess. Take a look at Streets Of Rage 4, it is isn't very intuitive that there are runs there in different difficulties etc.

Scotland

@Matse007 the forums in general need a massive overhaul. Reply notifications, better categories, moderation/clean-up, etc.

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