new frontpage looks terrible
1 year ago
Île-de-France, France

the only reason new runs appears on the frontpage is to quickly see what new times people got, we don't need all those details, especially with that much space for a single run

lot of people already complained about it when you did it to user profiles, but now it's even worse, it used to just be a line for a single run, but now a single run take 2/3 times more space

so yeah, the whole point of quickly checking the new times is gone since you just see a few runs by default and have to scroll for way too much time to see the whole page, not even mentionning how horrendous it is to read with all the variables, and the actual time of the run being so small under the rank

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Somerset, England

It's out of beta!! I predict that beta messages will be the next beta feature lol The new latest runs also appears on series pages, where on some pages it doesn't load [quote=skun]we don't need all those details[/quote] What new details? It's basically the same amount as before Although I do prefer the old design and that runs should take up less space

Feedback I gave from the supporter forums when this was first added:

  • Usernames should be in full
  • I don't like the capitalised text, although the whole site has that now
  • I do not like how the variables now appear out of brackets () making them look like sub-categories. The category is supposed to have a dash - after it, then commas after all the sub-categories and the same with variables but in brackets
  • Usernames should also include co op players

Also @Camcorder, or whoever might respond, is there a reason why the variables now look like sub-categories, why have they been not been moved back into brackets ()? If we have a reason for this then we might not be so critical

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Illinois, USA
MasterOfMike
He/Him, They/Them
1 year ago

Was it intentional by chance to also include runs from games you are not following, even if the other categories have enough runs to fit the settings setup on your profile?

(No, I did not have games which I was not following in my Latest Runs page before the new design was pushed)

Somerset, England

[quote=MasterOfMike]Was it intentional by chance to also include runs from games you are not following[/quote] I think yes, since didn't non-followed game runs show before?

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United States

Hi all, thanks for the feedback, especially to all the Supporters who helped test this while in beta.

We deployed this a little earlier than expected due to performance issues (it uses the new backend which is much more efficient and we've seen a very significant increase in traffic in the last week), so some of the details were a little rough around the edges.

I'm pushing a fix now that improves the UI based on feedback (longer usernames on desktop, variables in parentheses, slim things down on mobile), fixes the issue on series pages (my bad!), and tweaks the algorithm a bit (to show more runs from your games and less from random games, where possible).

For clarity: runs from games you don't follow always had the possibility of showing - no fundamental change there. The new algorithm makes an effort to show as many recent runs from games you follow, then fills in a bit from other games if necessary. It may show more runs overall, which might be why you're noticing the change. Runs from games you follow should be at the top.

We'll likely continue to tweak based on additional feedback, so don't be shy :)

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Illinois, USA
MasterOfMike
He/Him, They/Them
1 year ago

I'm not saying they're not supposed to show - I'm saying they're showing under conditions where they previously did not show for me

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Somerset, England

[quote=Camcorder]very significant increase in traffic in the last week[/quote] Do you mean within the last day?😅 [quote=Camcorder]I'm pushing a fix now that improves the UI based on feedback[/quote] Thanks! But why did you not do this when I suggested it in the Supporter forums? And you definitely saw my suggestion, also make sure to update this on user profiles [quote=Camcorder]to show more runs from your games and less from random games[/quote] I liked the random games showing

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United States

[quote=YUMmy_Bacon5]Do you mean within the last day?😅[/quote]

both, compounding!

[quote=YUMmy_Bacon5]Thanks! But why did you not do this when I suggested it in the Supporter forums? And you definitely saw my suggestion, also make sure to update this on user profiles[/quote]

I did see your feedback, just didn't have time to address it - it got bumped up on the priority list today :)

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Illinois, USA
MasterOfMike
He/Him, They/Them
1 year ago

[quote={Camcorder}]{The new algorithm makes an effort to show as many recent runs from games you follow, then fills in a bit from other games if necessary. It may show more runs overall, which might be why you're noticing the change.}[/quote]

In general, the algorithm (and to an extent the settings as well) basically make no practical sense. - Sometimes I'll get 4 runs across 2 games I don't follow, sometimes I'll get 3 runs across 2 games I don't follow, sometimes I'll get 2 runs across 2 games I don't follow, and sometimes I'll get 2 runs across a single game I don't follow... and so on (I've even had instances where it pulled two runs from a month ago)

If you look at the settings on my profile (see: https://imgur.com/a/sILjXst ) it suggests that I should be seeing 40 runs in the latest runs page from my followed games which were done in the past 30 days. Yet, this isn't what's happening:

  • I am only seeing 30 runs total from this group (this is despite me following enough games which definitely have enough activity to cross the 40 run threshold)
  • Even if you include the runs from games I am not following, I'm still only getting around 32-34 runs (depending on what the "algorithmic RNG" pulls)
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Somerset, England

The settings also don't work perfectly, like if I set Maximum number of followed runs to 0, or another low number, more than that show (lol) Also I think that Minimum number of followed runs should be per game The 1 days option from Maximum age of followed runs should be 1 day, not days, singular [quote=Camcorder]longer usernames on desktop[/quote] Can this please also be for mobile?

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Świętokrzyskie, Poland

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844272409708331062/1001627133958967376/Dd.PNG

..how? also the double nick display still isn't fixed

Somerset, England

More feedback:

  • The variables seem to appear in the wrong order, maybe reversed? Like here, where Practice should be first
  • It would be nice for the variables/sub-category's name to appear on hover
  • Sometimes duplicate runs show

[quote=JACK4L]also the double nick display still isn't fixed[/quote] What's that? Or do you mean the duplicate runs?

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Świętokrzyskie, Poland

@YUMmy_Bacon5 No, it happens when you aim the cursor at the browser tab of someone's run, and if they have a gradient nick, it will display twice. This has been a thing since months, just like a broken flag of one of Germany's lands.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/844272409708331062/1001630841811763200/Dd.PNG

Somerset, England

@JACK4L The page's title, yee, that needs to be fixed All usernames on the site, now, seem to have to 2 elements inside of their .username, one element for light and another for dark and they show depending if you have night mode turned on or off

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Gaming_64 likes this
United States

@Camcorder not sure if you saw my feedback a while back, but my final thought on the mobile version of the home page was that game covers appeared to be too small, in which images that have text are difficult to read. Does this happen to be on the list, or is this just a sad consequence of smaller screen sizes?

United States

We just deployed some improvements (still rolling out to all users):

  • Algorithm further improved to better respect user preferences, remove duplicate runs, and a variety of other tweaks
  • Fix username in title on run page

@VyPr, that’s a tough one. Making the images larger would consume more vertical space (reducing the number of runs visible at once and causing increased scrolling). Mind if I ask what phone you’re using?

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Somerset, England

Lmao thanks😎 When the Maximum number of followed runs is high the amount of games seem to lessen, so can more games please show? Unofficial games appear although I have Show runs from unofficial games turned off [quote=YUMmy_Bacon5]like if I set Maximum number of followed runs to 0, or another low number, more than that show (lol)[/quote] The same still happens but with high numbers

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Gaming_64 likes this
United States

I have a Google Pixel 2 XL (Specs: 6 inch display, 1440x2880 (18:9 ratio)), for reference, this is what my home screen looks like: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842545940719337492/1001663875856474122/Screenshot_20220726_203428.jpg

I also have a Kindle Fire HD 10 (11th Gen) (Specs: 10.1 inch display, 1920x1200 (16:10 ratio)), checked the homepage on this as well, looks much better: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842545940719337492/1001665139281502318/XRecorder_Edited_26072022_203919.jpg

If a fix can't happen, no big deal, at least the cover is there to begin with. Just happy that updates are happening more frequently now :)

Edit: Why are these embeds massive lol

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YUMmy_Bacon5 likes this
Australia

I think it looks fine, but for me it's showing only runs from games I follow. Some of which are almost a month old (https://www.speedrun.com/granny_3_pc/run/yopqrx1m this run is still showing for me). I think I'd prefer to see only the recent runs within a few days or a week, and then fill in the rest with random recent runs. Is that possible?

YUMmy_Bacon5 likes this

[quote=Camcorder]Runs from games you follow should be at the top.[/quote] Has this been changed? My frontpage currently looks like this, and I only follow Deepest Sword & the 3 games at the bottom of the screenshot.

Also, the "recent runs" tab on specific leaderboards seems to be functioning weirdly now. In Dungeon of Numenas 2, it only lists 3 runs, including my glideless run from the 12th (a misc. category), but it doesn't list my more recent any% pb or the more recent any% pb from @RedsMSR. I'm guessing there was a change to stop showing obsoleted runs in that tab (as there'd be a bunch of obsolete pbs from @jovin ), and it's gone too far somehow?

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