Rules about IL need to be stricter
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8 years ago
Super moderatorjongyon7192p
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8 years ago

Ugh, quite the opposite. Stricter rules is the last thing this tinyass speedrunning group needs, lest we choke it further into oblivion. Yet, I would make this a very big deal if there was an actual CO speedrun community.

Play-all actually makes it more accurate since full game speedruns will play all individual levels through Play-All. But nevermind that because nobody can use play-all for a faster score outside 1-1, 1-3, 1-4. If anyone does, 1. that was a huge waste of time, ya nerd. 2. It's gonna have to go through a lot of checks.

It's not easy to fake a record by editing a video. If a video is edited, it's easy to tell. Video length, inconsistent game physics, comparisons to other videos of the same level. It gets pretty obvious even just looking with your bare eyes.

Finally, if someone does cheat and get away with it, I am proud of making a complete NERD-loser WASTE their time cheating on the most inconsequential thing they could waste their time cheating on in their life. The most inconsequential thing I spent 200 hours routing, running, and moderating... But that was for my own enjoyment.

Also, do you wanna be mod? I'm just sick of life these days...Real life.

North Brabant, Netherlands

The IL runs are basically any%. If starting it using play all is faster so be it. It's part of the game. I don't know why you're complaining, you can use it too...

Rhône-Alpes, France

Wo...Stay cool man; I really agree with Jongyon on this point. It's the speedrun of a game comming from the abyss of Steam Summer Sales...There are 4 runners, there is O issue, If someone want to cheat, Big deal ! I'll let him do so, and more than this, I'll try to beat his time with my gamepad and nothing else.

That's OK, We sould'n bother us that much for such a little community, and if I had to redo my all videos, I would REALLY stop playing the game u_u

Super moderatorjongyon7192p
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8 years ago

A weite a bunch of stuff then my phone fucking shut down on meeeeee!!!!! Look, do you want mod or not? I can't be around as often and you care about cheating.

Just message the mods first. This conversation only gives those people ideas.

As for 7.38, it's easy. I won't accept it. If they appeal, they'll need proof. All of us tried and none of us could get 7.38. How did this one? Doesn't tell how? "Evidence" video is photoshopped. Conversation over.

I may have less than half of the IL pbs, but there is literally only 5 videos that are faster than my unrecorded times. Those are more likely to be cheats than these play alls. And I know they aren't for good reasons.

If you think any of the current play all wrs are cheats, go ahead and report it. I'm human, after all. We need the community to keep watch.

Super moderatorjongyon7192p
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7 years ago

Okay, I must come back to this topic because he did have a point that I did not realize. After doing a "play all" a run could just be less optimized overall, and still get the IL WR, as long as it lost less than 0.04 seconds. This is bad hindsight on my part, since 9 months ago, 0.04s was honestly not a difference of life and death.

Now? Uhh, not yet. But it's going to happen soon, as I believe I won't stop playing this game anytime soon. I haven't made a decision yet, and I think we shouldn't. And that's because we DON'T KNOW WHY doing "play all" IS faster. We know it does, and I figured it's consistently 0.04s faster with exception of 1-1 The Approach. But there's so many reasons that Play Alling would be faster, such as initial speed, or position, or some rounding thing, or something weird and stupid, or it's actually not exactly 0.04s faster in maybe 2 of the stages we haven't tested yet.

So whaddya think?

Super moderatorjongyon7192p
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3 years ago

Ok I guess nobody has a problem with the ILs as is, so I'll leave it alone.

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