Leaderboard updated / suggestion thread
3 years ago
United States

I thought my youtube VODs were trimmed pretty well personally. Unless you're worried about maybe a 3 second lead in I thought they were all clean, lmk of any specific ones that aren't trimmed well. I tried to start right at the options menu or the title screen within reason.

I think the PAL NTSC thing is a bit over my level of research. If a PAL runner can indeed not get WR though I'd say splitting the boars in some way is fair.

I think either Any% or Very Easy 1 Round should be default.

I also think people shouldn't be setting their own HP above 100% for normal categories but no one seemed to mind. That said I think Gaia/Sho use should be allowed on any runs if we consider we allow the specials remapped to the shoulder buttons on lower difficulties.

Those are my 2 cents, sorry I didnt read absolutely everything but tried to catch up.

Either way, nice to chat with the other runners! Hi all!

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Texas, USA

@NickDoane I was specifically referring to your Normal 1 Bout, Hard 1 Bout, and Very Hard 1 Bout runs.

Setting HP above 100% isn't that big of a deal IMO due to the fact that if I do go into the red I'm already losing time, this just guarantees more runs can finish as a death looses a lot of time. And if what we are thinking are the requirements for Sho to appear it may not be bad to use on higher difficulties.

In terms of using Gaia and Sho I think they would just break the run and take away a lot of the randomness with their overpowered projectile attacks that hit full screen. They are only accessed through a cheat code.

DBcade likes this
Kumamoto, Japan

Alright, so I talked and showed this off on my stream before. Gaia is absolutely broken, he can ring out any character in about 5 to 6 seconds, on top of doing more damage and hits in a single combo. Sho is a powerhouse, not as good but had some very silly attacks, where the rest of the cast cant catch up.

Basically they, Gaia and Sho, are secret boss character for a reason.

Ultimately if your a secret character that means you would be used for an ANY% category. This is a good standard thats been established.

Usually Any% is also for any rules are ok, change health, change damage, time, etc. its usually a goofy category but this always people who want to change the game settings to whatever they wish including rounds get set here.

I think in this case, ill keep 1 round bouts since thats what people like. However typically with fighting game time attacks, I always view it as pop in into the console and play the default. Then you can change the settings later. This game was never released in Arcade so I can’t hold it to the same arcade standards that are valued for some us game maniacs.

I’ll look for a better image for background, but i remember it being hard to find. I usually try and slightly match the games feeling or color to the theme of the game. Outside of the green default I am open to changing it. I think used the background image for silly quote on the box.

Lets keep this thread going, maybe others on the site will jump in to run this game.

NickDoane likes this
Texas, USA

@AllAgesGaming To further go against your argument of PAL conversion this game does not run at a constant framerate no matter what the version. Certain actions such as supers that are used while being ringed out and going under Gaia's projectiles cause the game to slow down. The example can be seen here:

If you want to be competitive at this game simply get the NTSC ROM and play on NTSC. Both versions have slow down so a blanket "time conversion" won't really solve anything in the grand scale of things.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
United States

I noticed in the rules it says Gaia/Sho can be used but timing starts when imputting their codes and that is added to the total time of the run. How things ended up going when I ran as Gaia though is that we just ended up making an Any% board for those types of runs and I think that works really well. Just thought I'd say you should take that older line out of the rules section or change it to reflect that they are considered Any % instead now.

I also think you should add Gaia and Sho to the character options because my Any% runs have always been mismarked as Rungo runs.

And finally, I mentioned a while ago of the idea of a misc Pacifist category where you cant use any attacks at all. I have 3 runs in that category but the boards didn't seem interested at the time. I'd like to just ask 1 more time if I may. I know a handful of games off the top of my head on here that have Pacifist boards. If it's misc I don't see the harm in it. That said, I'm ALSO planning on doing a BLINDFOLDED speedrun of this game soon, so THAT could end up a misc category too. I'm sure some of the top runners could be competitive and have fun playing in that category as well!

Ok, that's all, cheers!

Edited by the author 1 year ago
DBcade likes this
Kumamoto, Japan

I really like those suggestions @NickDoane and will implement some of those misc categories as well next board update!

NickDoane likes this
Pennsylvania, USA

Good idea Nick, I still have no clue how to unlock Sho. Lmao.

United States

Tbh I stopped at learning how to unlock Gaia because I remember Sho not being especially great when I unlocked him back in the day and the unlock code is more involved

Kumamoto, Japan

Unlocked characters are ok, you can do qcb square after the opening cutscene right when the menu is loading in, and it will unlock Gaia. Show is another issue though, i cant figure out how to get that code to work.

Canada

To Play as Sho Press START on controller 2 to go back to the title screen from demonstration mode, and as the words come in, hit Left-Right, Light-Right, Left then Square (on the directional pad). You should here "fight", and the text will turn blue. Then go to player select screen, go to Kayin, push down and square

Kumamoto, Japan

What speed do you have to input the code at? I did this at really quick speeds and the game wouldn't let the code enter.

So other sites say its easiest to press start on 2p controller. but are you saying you have to press start on the 2p controller?

Canada

Im not too sure as that info i go online, theres only one rule change id like to propose, if Gaia code is entered the Text on the menu will be red, its such a pain to restart the system everytime just to get the code on film, time should always start on when a character is picked and not when the code is entered, No runs really seem to be done with Gaia on the site so i feel it wouldnt change it much. It would be easier to sumbit runs without having to get the code on camara.

Kayin -S tier

Kumamoto, Japan

I agree, the rule was already changed before you posted this.

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