Is the time confirmation really needed?
8 years ago
Utrecht, Netherlands

So first of all, sorry for wasting your time rejecting my 25 speedruns, whoever took the time to do so :p

But do we really need a confirmation that a speedrunner is speaking the truth? Because the rule seems to be that you need to show in-game footage where it shows the time at the end.

I have only had previous speedrun experience with Portal 2, and they just confirmed my time without even the need of any evidence whatsoever. It was only 20th place back then, but still. I must say, I was a little surprised. But the truth is, there aren't really any fake speedrunners out there.

So why do I care? Well, I have a few world records on in-game time challenge mode speedruns (some by over 1 second,) and all the footage I have, is what SUPERHOT saves when you tell it to save your replay. So basically it doesn't count. So I basically need to redo all challenge mode runs, which I don't want to. Or can I just upload the footage I have, and just add a screenshot of the time viewed from the menu?

I feel like not more than 20 people on the planet care about my times anyways. So if you still don't accept my times, it wouldn't be a big deal to me at all. So I guess I don't really care much after all.

But still, I feel like it is unnecessary to verify that a speedrunner is speaking the truth. Especially when they have a video showing their speedrun, even though it isn't real proof.

On top of that, someone could probably write a script that just makes the in-game time timer go just a bit slower. So even video evidence isn't actually real proof. You could say 'No one is ever going to waste their time on that,' but I feel the same way about fake speedruns in general.

I am also wondering, is it a problem if I make a compilation of 5 speedruns and I use that as video proof for all 5 speedruns. Because I can understand the general user of this website just wants to see that specific part of the video where I do that one map. Is there maybe an option to tell this website from what time to play the video? This is just me not wanting to upload 25 videos, in case you didn't already notice :P

Lastly, I currently have a compilation of all my speedruns uploaded on YouTube. If I added just screenshots of all my times viewed (and thereby verified) from the game menu in the description of the video, would that be considered good enough? This would basically be the best scenario possible for me :)

California, USA
Soulcloset
She/Her, They/Them
8 years ago

Kura's done a great job at summarizing our timing rules here. The reason we require live footage of the execution of a run is to see that, given the game cannot yet be hacked/modded to make the real time execution be faked, your run is real and legit. This also conveniently shows the time directly afterwards, as noted by the game itself. This system was developed as a balance between convenience in verifying and concise proof. I'm sorry that your runs do not meet these requirements, as we would gladly accept them. The fact is, though, that we've already rejected enough people for it as it is, and a few have actually tried to cheat us on their times.

Utrecht, Netherlands

"and a few have actually tried to cheat us on their times" Wow... That is so low man. But at least I can see where you're coming from now. It's just annoying, because I would have the world record on 14 out of the 25 maps, if I would have known before hand that the replay isn't good enough :(

Nottinghamshire, England

Kura and Soulcloset have made some great points, so I don't really have much to add.

Having all the times in one video isn't really an issue. Preferably have the timestamps for the level in the comments, just makes verification easier.

Additionally, some of the IL's you submitted were on different categories and platforms. That can be edited by mods so it's fine if they're in wrong categories/platforms.

Really sorry for rejecting the run, the video was really well made and I'd imagine it took a while to edit, but we have to be sure as to ensure that times are accurate and verified as to ensure that cheaters are not getting through.

Utrecht, Netherlands

I understand :s Thank you for the compliments about my video anyways :) On a side note: If you would count my times, the sum of all world records is JUST under 2 minutes! :O Like 1:59 and a little over half a second. I thought that was cool :)