Hey to you all guys,

I always wondered how people capture older consoles, because i walways wanted to do that too, but im not that smart when its about the topic computers, cable managment etc....

Could somebody tell me instructions how to do that and maybe even give me some links from amazon or ebay (but please the german versions because i can just order from .de sites).

Thank you for your help in advance :3

//Neko

Hey,

To capture all my consoles, I use the Avermedia ExtremeCap U3: http://www.amazon.de/AVERMEDIA-61CV7100A0AC-ExtremeCap-externe-Videoschnittbox/dp/B00GWDXO7U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438247265&sr=8-1&keywords=avermedia+extremecap+u3

For the PS3 you will need a HDMI-Splitter. Maybe this: http://www.amazon.de/HDMI-Splitter-Verteiler-Full-HD-1080P-1x2-1-3/dp/B00BY07MZG/ref=pd_sim_147_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=119Z47X0NPA0TNP17EYN

The old consoles don't have HDMI. But you can convert the SCART-signal to a HDMI-signal with this thing: (This is for Wii, GC, N64, PS1, PS2 necessary) http://www.amazon.de/CSL-Konverter-integrierter-Eingang-Skalierung/dp/B00FMPLYZ8/ref=sr_1_1?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1438247384&sr=1-1&keywords=scart+to+hdmi+converter

Maybe you will need a HDMI-cable and/or SCART-adapter. If you use this SCART-Adapter, you can capture the really old consoles, like SNES or the SEGA Genesis: http://www.amazon.de/mumbi-SCART-S-VHS-AV-Adapter-Umschalter/dp/B003JGQFFG/ref=sr_1_1?s=ce-de&ie=UTF8&qid=1438247489&sr=1-1&keywords=scart+adapter

I don't have a NES. So I don't know, how you capture this. Maybe a NES will capture with the SCART to HDMI-converter too.

Greeting, trivialerweise

So yeah, like trivial showed with these links, depending on what you want to capture you have to use different things (HDMI for new consoles, Composite or Peritel for the old ones, etc)

Along that, you'll probably need cables and splitters, especially for SCART / Composite

Here's what my setup looks like (PS3 and old consoles, composite):

http://imgur.com/xplBMS6 First, there's that part, the cables from the console itself.

http://imgur.com/QfIwTEW Then they get into splitters, wich is basically 1 to 2 cables.

http://imgur.com/9JILj9y One of the 2 cables goes into one of these things, to the right, that stuff is connected to the TV. It's better to do that because when it's on TV there's no delay (compared to having it on your PC screen with AmarecTV, or other programs), wich is obviously better for playing.

http://imgur.com/46lbd2I Anyway, that was one of the 2 cables. Here's where the other one go: dazzle / capture device.

http://imgur.com/ckRYFYf And well... the dazzle itself is connected to the PC via USB. ProTip: ALWAYS use an USB 2.0 or 3.0 port for the Dazzle AND your controller (PC games), since it's 2.0 or 3.0 it's faster, wich makes the image a little better, but the real important thing to notice is the capture being smoother than with an USB 1.0 port.

For Controllers on PC, let's just say that your inputs will be better overall (faster, eating less inputs when playing, and so on). It's a very simple thing, but i know peoples who actually don't even know about USB 2.0 being a thing.

So... yeah, that's my setup, on my PC i open AmarecTV (wich is installed on an external HDD that i plug in when i stream, it apparently helps for droping less frames and it makes recording smoother, so far i didn't notice much difference, but i didn't have problems with recording to begin with).

Hope it helped.

Hey,

If you use the Avermedia Extremecap U3, you haven't a delay on the PC. That's the reason, I use that CC. (I can't look on the TV while streaming) For streaming, I use OBS. If you need other help, you can ask me.

Depends on the budgets and setup that you want. Like the posts above, there are different ways to do everything.

You could start with some thing as simple as a Dazzle, Avermedia, Elgato and work your way up, through Blackmagic, Hauppauge, Roxio or the sort.

I'm not going to add too much more, because the other posts should sort you into the right direction, but I will say be wary of HDMI adaptors, some of them can be a bit dodgy - where possible you want to avoid splitters and adaptors. Every extra little part of the chain that isn't needed can just add more confusion and delay to the final product, if not lower quality due to breakup of the signal.

Just a quick note, Aver media and Elgato make better devices than Blackmagic, Hauppage and especially Roxio. Avermedia's Live gamer extreme is the cream of the crop

I use a simple set up to capture older consoles that use AV cables; A capture card with HDMI input/output, and a AV to HDMI upscaler that supports 720 to 1080. Use the powered upscaler to grab the AV output from the desired console such as Ps1 or GC. Then use HDMI to send it to the capture card and have it pass through it back out as HDMI to TV/Display. I get no delay for recording nor for gameplay and it actually solves most of the basic AV audio issues I'v have had.

This is the AV to HDMI upscaler I use: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00AXEVM8C/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and it you wish to use PS3 and need a HDMI splitter that can bypass the HDCP try this: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0089DSLMY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Capture card that I use is the AverMedia Live HD internal Card, one of the newer ones.

Hope this helps someone out with getting an idea of what is needed to get those consoles working for recording.

Just to make clear, there will be an input delay when using an HDMI converter like the one listed above. How bad that delay is depends on the device, but if you are sensitive to input delay (like me) then using HDMI converters is no good for speedrunning. On the other hand, using an AV splitter of some sort, and sending the video directly to the TV as well as the HDMI converter for capturing, is a much better solution than playing through the HDMI splitter.

Another solution (the one I use) is to go to a local second hand/charity shop, and pick up a cheap CRT TV, and play off that, since there is zero input lag on a CRT TV. Use an AV splitter (I use a SCART distribution amplifier to split my RGB enabled systems) to send video directly to your TV and to your HDMI converter simultaneously for the best solution.

The TV I use is actually a Sony PVM, a professional broadcast monitor from the 1990's. These are the absolute best TV's you can get for retro games and absolutely perfect for speedrunning games like RE2. If you're interested in getting one, have a look on craigslist (if you're in the US) or ebay.

If anyone is interested, I can draw a layout of my setup in photoshop to show you exactly how I set everything up.

honestly it depends on the device itself most devices can have delay yes but from what I am currently using there is no noticeable delay at all as far as game input to output to display. more importantly delay will most often occur from devices that capture or modify the actual source rather then just changing the output type and again it heavily depends on the equipment used and the amount of time and money wanting to put into getting the best quality and or performance as possible. Current my AV to HDMI and my HDMI splitter both do not create any noticeable delay at least for me even after having it go through a pc to capture the games and then output, so long as your not doing anything major to the sources quality the performance should be maintained. the only alternative I can suggest is looking at paying up some big dollars for the FrameMeister which is very good for these sorta things. the other major thing I can say is that depending on the TV or w/e you use for display's refresh rate etc is, that can be the most problematic for delays from unsupported signal input types. most older tv's cannot take inputs above 720 and most new tv's etc cannot take inouts below 720 without devices that can change those with minimal quality and or performance loss.

I use an HD PVR 2 for all of my consoles. Anything that has at least component hookups, can record both component and composite.

There is a delay (small) when dealing with composite to device (in this case HD PVR 2) and then out to tv

If you want to make sure that there is zero delay then you need more hardware like a video distribution amplifier.

Again this delay is very small and hardly noticeable. However, if you do use an hdmi converter the lag will be more noticeable.

IMO Your best bet is to get a device that records component because you can use it as either component or composite.

Sorry to Necro an old thread guys, but I have questions about the set-up you used to capture your 5th place RE2 Leon A run @AndehX. I'm 100%, TOTALLY new to this (capturing runs and the sidebar that had your Splits at certain points) and am hilariously computer illiterate lol. Like...it's bad man.

Could you maybe give me a step by step guide to how I could capture a run like that? (If it's not too much too ask, that is). Minus how you recorded your commentary I guess, as any submissions I make won't have that. I don't trust myself to chat and play for speed at the same time haha.

The person you’re trying to reach out to hasn’t logged on in 8 months. You’re probably going to want to either ask in the RE forum or reach out to the person on their social media links.

You’ll get a better response there than this very old thread.

Or, if you have more general questions about capturing and streaming that aren’t RE specific, create a new thread here in Streaming with those questions and we’ll be glad to help you out.