console why bother?
5 years ago

I may have misunderstood, but I read an earlier post where someone said that an emulated ntsc rom is frame by frame perfect to a console nes for smb1, and since emu records are allowed, whats really the point in spending all the money on console, crt, powerpak, all that stuff? seems a lot of money, is there any definitive difference, super slight input lag or something?

Edited by the author 5 years ago
Oregon, USA

Main reason is input lag. EMU has a bit of input lag while console is much cleaner. It also just feels better to play on a real console in general.

xx_420_blazit_xx, DiamondcrafterA and 7 others like this

ok, I thought there had to be a reason to go through all that, will stick to emu until I get very good.

Lul_ecks_dee likes this

Tbh, I don't think it's worth it. I'm going for 456 and I'm doing just fine with my keyboard on emulator. What's holding me back is myself and my mindset, not whether I have a controller or an NES

United States

Also a lot of more serious speed runners want to play on console because of the authenticity. Also if you submit runs to certain marathons, only console submissions are accepted.

2a03man and Ribb95 like this
Ontario, Canada

People play on console for usually the same reasons anyone would ever want to own and play retro systems. The question of asking someone why go out and spent money all these old retro systems when you can just emulate all of it has been asked lots of times that general question of course is not restricted to speedrunning only, and while I understand why it's asked, it has been answered before.

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KingOfJonnyBoy likes this

I doubt any of the top runners care about nes nostalgia, they're mostly too young anyway, there is likely a very tangible game play difference, that's what I wanted to know.

Oklahoma, USA

@2a03man "I doubt any of the top runners care about nes nostalgia, they're mostly too young anyway"

Granted, I don't know the specific actual ages of the top players, but of the top 6 players, at least 5 of them are "old" (in their mid-20s to 30s)

  1. Kosmic
  2. Darbian
  3. Somewes
  4. Stuckinaplate
  5. Tavenwebb
  6. RoyLGamer

And in the top 20, they're mostly still 20s to 30s... with a few exceptions

I'm 31 and the majority of the smb1 runners that I watch are late 20's to mid 30s

The main reason people run this game is nostalgia, when you boil it down. It's beating the game you played and couldn't even beat as a 6 year old really, really fast. Obviously there are exceptions, since there are several ~13-16 year old runners in addition to the 30 year olds

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2a03man, youtubeman06 and 2 others like this

I would have thought 6 year olds and older would have started with snes and not have played it but I could be wrong, I'm in my 30s, and do have barely memories of it but I was around 1 year old when i watched my older brother play it, so playing it again is like the first time. Mostly want to run it because technically it looks like one of the hardest games, and also it has great prestige like Donkey Kong.

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Darpey likes this
Caernarfonshire, Wales

First of all. Crt probably somewhere in your house so you've saved some money already. NES you might need to get but maybe someone you know has one and they don't use it anymore so you could borrow one. And a powerpak you might have to spend on. So overall you could save some money from the console method but you might need to spend some money on a crt and a powerpak. But you could still run on emulator or VC i you wanted to. And if you have the game on VC all you need to do is get a capture card unless if you already have one. Also webcams exist so if you have one you don't need to buy a capture card so that's also a money save. Conclusion is NES is only 1 of many ways to speedrun smb1.

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