Mobility Beaten in 45 Seconds
4 years ago
French Southern Territories

Frame perfect trick

Tasmania, Australia

That's really interesting. Can you explain exactly how it happens?

I feel like the best thing to do now is ban this from the main category. If one of us becomes a mod we should have Any% as one category and have the modes as sub-categories. Any% can become Any% No Major Glitches which bans this, and we can have a new Any% category with the same sub-categories which allows everything. The same sub-category split should happen for All Levels as well.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
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French Southern Territories

All levels doesn't have a major glitch.

This glitch is done by resetting the game and selecting the save file on the same frame. It's frame perfect, so it's hard to do.

Tasmania, Australia

I meant just splitting All Levels into the four difficulty modes like as in Any% and Any% NMG.

Do you select the save file after it finishes resetting, or as you begin to reset it?

Tasmania, Australia

@Merl_ Question in the post above

Also, we should come up with a name for this, to be referenced in the new category rules. If we knew more about how it worked we could call it something like window storage for example. I think it would make sense to call it starting from a glitched file, since that's what seems to be happening.

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French Southern Territories

The teleporters don't spawn until you enter the very first room, so there's no point in using it for all levels because the only place you can spawn and still progress is in starfix hq. You select the file on the same frame it is deleted, so after it resets.

French Southern Territories

Keep in mind that this trick is frame perfect, so you likely won't get it first try.

Tasmania, Australia

Cool, thanks for the tip. I think with a better Ultima Radius run a sub-10 second run can be possible.

French Southern Territories

It isn't possible. There are three dialogues and ultima can be beaten in around 7 seconds

Tasmania, Australia

Fair enough. Also the 7 seconds starts after the second of those three dialogues so there's an extra 2 or so seconds at the start as well. I think maybe a 12 second time would be around the limit.

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Ontario, Canada

Of course this would happen... ESPECIALLY when I don't have my computer to do any runs at the moment due to the coronavirus...

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Tasmania, Australia

@Rifltz I'm looking forward to when you can do runs again 🙂

Tasmania, Australia

Ok, I managed to get the glitch on a file in the Core. Didn't really expect it to work so it wasn't the best run. With the new improvements to Ultima Radius I think I can get around 10 seconds for that section consistently, including the dialogue. Also, instead of quitting to menu when you enter the Core for the first time, you can also beat the game, then go to the debug room, then enter Ultima, then exit, then quit to menu. This means your spawnpoint when you re-enter the save after resetting the file timer is right on top of the door to Ultima in the debug room, meaning you can enter it immediately. This probably saves about a second. The new mode selection skip doesn't help, though.

Tasmania, Australia

I was experimenting with the glitch, I'm not sure I fully understand how it works yet. Read the description of this for thoughts.

French Southern Territories

I actually attempted that yesterday but was unsuccessful, i couldnt get the glitch

French Southern Territories

You can't save time by spawning in the debug room, I tried. When you beat Ultima in debug room, the credits don't start. I assume this is because the game doesn't expect you to start in the debug room.

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Tasmania, Australia

Huh, that's weird. I guess it makes sense. I just realised it wouldn't save much time over your PB anyway because it's pretty much the same as entering and leaving Ultima in the Core. Oh well.

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