With TSC submissions being down since March and the site's infrastructure growing more outdated by the second, it's finally time to put some IL leaderboards up here. The change won't happen untill after SGDQ as I simply won't have the time, but I wanted to get this thread up ahead of time to list how I intend to structure the boards, as well as gather some input from the community about several points.
Rules:
- Video is required
- Emulators are banned (This might change in the future, but 1 change at a time)
- Times gotten during Egg Shuttle are not allowed with exception of Tropical Resort Act 1.
There will not be a transfer of any existing statistics from TSC or other sites. The sheer workload would be huge as is, even more so if we contact every person to ask if they're ok with having their stats transferred to begin with. A lot of stats on TSC are without video to begin with, so even if we did a stat transfer, it would still result in an incomplete board. The intention is to give these boards a fresh start and let the people decide for themselves whether they want their stats here or not. This will make the boards start out empty of course, but if the community wills it, the boards can evolve into the primary IL boards on the internet.
The boards will be structured by stage, with a subcategory for Super Sonic. Game Land will also be added of course. Some stages do not have Super Sonic available, but unfortunately the site does not allow me to pick and choose which stages get the subcategory, so they'll just remain empty. And no I do not intend to have a board for Terminal Velocity Act 2 lol.
To clarify extra on the Egg Shuttle rule: since boost and rings carry over, it allows for boost management, damage boost or Shuttle exclusive skips that can result in a faster time. I'd like to avoid having any IL turn into “Let's go all the way through Egg Shuttle to have 1 try at getting an IL PB”. Therefore IL PB's you happen to get during an Egg Shuttle speedrun cannot be submitted. It's significantly easier to have a global rule for this than to make a ton of exceptions and discussions about “but well actually, I didn't benefit from stuff carrying over”.
If you have any thoughts about any of the above or something I didn't mention, post here. It'll be a while before the change is implemented, so you'll have plenty time to get your thoughts in.
Lastly, keep in mind that verification will take a while during the initial wave. Especially since this is not the only game that will be getting IL boards. Should the workload become too large for the existing mods, I'll be sure to recruit someone from the community to help verify.
I think Cyd has considered this too, but sometimes in the beginning of a level you won't have any boost as you might've used all of it in the former level anyways, so why should we disqualify them despite having no extra boost?
As the original post states: It's significantly easier to have a global rule for this than to make a ton of exceptions and discussions about “but well actually, I didn't benefit from stuff carrying over”.
Please make my life easier haha
I was about to say that it takes very small efforts to verify ILs in eggshuttle runs thanks to youtube timestamps that runners could use in the URLs, but one thing came to mind: Sometimes the boost-meter can't really read very small amounts of boost so it appears that it's empty when it in fact isn't. And this won't be noticed when combined with new boost capsules. So only for that reason I'm for the rule of no eggshuttle ILs.
One more thing I'd like input on: currently I intend to do the boards like this, with bosses mixed in with the rest of their respective zone (only reason being I think it looks nicer). Would anyone prefer to have all the bosses bunched up together, instead of spread out out across the specific zones?
...........................................................Sonic......................Super Sonic Tropical Resort Act 1 Tropical Resort Act 2 Tropical Resort Act 3 Tropical Resort Act 4 Tropical Resort Act 5 Tropical Resort Act 6 Tropical Resort Boss Sweet Mountain Act 1 etc.
They're up lads, get submitting! https://www.speedrun.com/sonic_colors_wii/individual_levels
