Categories discussion
8 years ago
Vienna, Austria

I also added Vehicles as Variable now. It's just a small thing and isn't needed for a run. It's just there to provide some extra Information/an Additional Filter.

Cambridgeshire, England

http://cyberscore.me.uk/game/1622 Ought to add these times to cup leaderboards and IL leaderboards. You can add what you want (I'd recommend just the ones with proof for now).

Vienna, Austria

Thanks for the info, but when they want to be on this leaderboards as well, I guess they should submit it for themself. It's simply not the job of a mod to gather records, but thanks for letting us know :)

Netherlands

Beating dev times is required for 300% as far as I know. Then again I beat all dev times without ever going back to the menu so idk if it gets to 100% without beating em Whatever the game counts for 100% is what we should go for

Vienna, Austria

I figured that there are some Skips/Glitches in the Game. Should we create a (Sub-?) Category for Glitchless/No Skips? If so, how do we call it (Both then. Glitched & Glitchless? Skips & No Skips? ... ?)

Netherlands

I think it should just be Skips/No Skips. There's not really any "glitches", just a physics quirk. So Skips should cover everything (for now) Though personally I'm not a fan of these type of categories, and I don't think it's necessary so far. If anything I'd make it a variable, not a category

Vienna, Austria

Well I know it sounds unnecessary first, but think about it when there's a Update (which will come to 90%) which would patch out these skips. Then we'ld have tons of old runs which you can't reproduce preety much, that's why that is useful. And Glitches do make quite some differences so I think a Category for them would be good. Also MK64 has such a system which I think is quite good.

Netherlands

If that update does come I'm okay with that. But for now I don't really see a point. Rather wait until the patch actually comes to see what it fixes, if anything (online crashing is probably highest priority right now for them) I know glitches can make quite some difference, but there really aren't any right now outside of some lap skips, which would be banned under the "No Skips" rule

Austria

Yo you called the category Time "Trail" its "Time Trial" :D But the Game calls it "Time Attack" might as well take the official name from the game!

Austria

A few more Things:

  • 300% should be a non-misc. category (All other games do that too for their 100%)
  • But you could add "All Time Attacks" ( All 3 Speedclasses as a misc category!)
  • Is it possible to display all Subcategories without clicking the button "Show all" it will always be the 3 categories (Sub,Super and Hypersonic) apllies for: All categories with the 3 Subcategories for Speeds.

If you mod me I can do that myself. Thanks.

Austria

By writing this I meant something else:

  • But you could add "All Time Attacks" ( All 3 Speedclasses as a misc category!)

I meant that if you do all 3 Speedclasses in Time Attack in a single run thats a misc. category. So a run consisting of Sub Super and HyperSonic I would like to keep the single ones as a regular category, sorry for the misunderstanding!

Which means normal categories Time Attack: Sub Super and hypersonic (just like the cups) and a misc category that does all 3 at once.

Kinda frustrating trying to delegate this, is there a problem me beeing a Mod? There is still some other stuff...

Netherlands

I'm against having categories be the same thing on all leagues, even as misc. It adds a lot of unnecessary stuff that will most likely stay empty, or at most have 1 run. That's just silly.

We're a small community. Keep it simple so the competition is more focussed.

Vienna, Austria

Kuru: I added/chnaged the suggestions of yours as good as possible, while also trying to make them as reliable as possible, so some features/changes haven't been done (like you prob. expected to). But I guess it's fine now. Also, I can clearly understand that you'ld like to be a mod as well, bt we're currently 3 mods for this Game allready, and have changed/made all usefull/improving suggestions into the leaderboards as far as I can tell. The more People are becoming mod, the more complicated such changes will be, because everyone will have a different view on the stuff. So I think we're currently enought Mods for the Game. But, I case there's a flood of people coming to run this game, or a mod-post get's free, we can add more Mods to it :) I hope that's fine

Vallkyr: I dont really see the point of removing it. It's a misc Category already, so you don't see it right at the beginning and I think it's very clear how the Leaderboards look like.

Netherlands

Whether or not it's misc doesn't really matter. It's still spreading out competition and it's basically just a combo category of all Time Attacks. There's really no reason for it to exist tbh. Besides, there's currently 4 empty boards (not including Sub and Super subcategories), the last thing we need is to add more

Basically, a category needs to have a meaning and be unique. Championship is unique because of the CPU racers. TA is unique because no other racers, dev times and respawns don't give energy like Championship. Hero Mode is unique for various reasons. 300% is everything put together. And that's all we need IMO.

Austria

It's not fine now. Yeah add the Time Attack back in. All cups is called "Championship" in the game! I dont see why this category has a name different to the one in the Game.

-Championship (3 Subcategories) -Time Attack (3 Subcategories) -Hero Mode -300%

Should surely be in the Main categories I agree with Valk.

If you want to do Misc categories like -100% Championship -100% Time Attack

Thats the easiest non confusing way to call them, it includes the ingame name and what you have to do.

p.s i wanted to mod because i already spent alot of time with the game and understand its structure. And i wouldnt change anything unless we agree. p.p.s Ill will fill the categories with a run tomorrow.

Alaska, USA

My honest opinion is that Championship and Time Attack should be in 3 different categories each, separated by the speed. Doesn't make sense to do all 3 cups, or all 3 sets of ILs on all 3 speeds, unless it's 300%. I'm okay with 300% being a category, whether or not it's serious or for fun.

Vienna, Austria

Ok, removed the useless Categories and renamed the All Cups to Championship (Didn't even notice that until now FailFish ). EXLemmy -> All Categories which have different Speeds ARE separated by the Speed DansGame

Austria

Prefix can we add 300% back into the main categories? It was already in why did you remove it? I agree we dont need any misc. categories for now. Btw. looks good now!

Vienna, Austria

Well sure, thought it should be misc but apparently not xD

Norway

Wondering a bit about the Time Attack and Championship categories because they're very similar. You're basically just going as fast as you can through all 16 levels, but:

  • For Time Attack you need to beat the dev times as well for it to count, I guess?
  • For Championship you need to get at least top 3 placing in the cups for it to count?

The questions are kind of stupid, but I just want to be sure before doing runs in January.

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