Duping Evidence Dash Ideas
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Friesland, Netherlands

"getting a sports car would be necessary for it. "

¤Video does mission with a Blista.

Nice

Germany

The Waka-Gashira video kinda made me want to find an Evidence Dash dupe route which would lead to the grenade strats above, so this is the best I could come up with. You need at least 2 rampages for the dupe due to the length of 'Arms Shortage', so I think taking the M16 rampage and making a replay of the Shotgun rampage is the most efficient combination (pls tell me no one has thought about this before and this post isn't redundant OpieOP ):

The important stuff is from 1:45 to 4:40, rest shows whole route from Payday for Ray until the start of Liberator:

Also notes I've made (basically the route, important part between the two -----):

  • do current any% route until 'Payday for Ray' (you should still be on a rocket rampage after starting the mission)
  • do 'Payday for Ray', don't get bribe replay after 2nd phone
  • after 3rd phone: rocket rampage should have run out by now, pick up the M16 rampage (after the phonecall just drive straight and cross the street to stay on the campus until you approach a wall, the rampage should be to your right on a grass patch)
  • after 4th phone: get replay of shotgun rampage in the park (rampage is in the south-west corner of the park, but not visible, because you're already on the M16 rampage)
  • proceed with 'Silence the Sneak' (M16 turns to grenades, so grenade strats here)
  • start 'Arms Shortage' before the timer runs out (that's the DIFFICULT part, but possible)
  • load replay to start the shotgun rampage while on the mission (this needs to be done before mission ends, i.e. before talking to Phil after the attack, in this video it's before I jump into the marker, you can still activate it earlier to be faster or just later to be safer)
  • during 'Arms Shortage': pick up rockets and you get rockets instead of a shotgun, so basically mission stays the same
  • after 'Arms Shortage': DON'T buy any weapons
  • dupe 'Evidence Dash', you will have 2 stars after activating 'Evidence Dash' a second time
  • try to get busted instead of dying, police station is much closer to Donald than hospital (in this video it took kinda long, it was the first time I've ever tried)
  • start 'Liberator' and probably go to ammunation to buy grenades for Wakagashira and one of those: ak/uzi/rifle for Liberator...

...currently working on the rest...

Back in december, I had a route that involved getting a rocket rampage replay during Payday for Ray, dupe and fail ED then get 30k rocket ammo with the safehouse trick. I don't remember the route but I gave it to Vegeto and he improved it and tested it to be slower than good ED [Quote][06:16:29] <Jeremie> ok timed its about 40-50s slower compared to a run with a 75s ED [06:19:51] <Jeremie> Payday For Ray->first phone->RL replay->2 phone->3 phone->M16 rampage->4phone->StS->arms shortage->grenade rampage->ED->ED->Cartel Cruiser->Store in Garage->30k Ammo->Liberator->Gates->Ak47 Pickup->gate [06:19:58] <Jeremie> that was roughly my timing method[/Quote] But you can try rampage starting Waka-Gashira Wipeout instead of getting 30k rockets and pickup rockets later for SAM (thing I didn't consider at the time)

Portugal

Picking up rockets later is not necessary, after killing Kenji just go to your safehouse via Belleville Park and save/reload the game, you should have the 30k rockets that way.

South Georgia

Or maybe do waka gashira the intended way? The main reason for using the rockets is that your car is very likely to get blown up, but has anyone tried the same replay strats as in liberator to stop them shooting you?

And then leave the car par with the usj ramp . Since the cartel cruiser is very fast this might save time over a sports car on the way back to donald.

Germany

I have seen people saying this everywhere, but has anybody ever been blown up by the Yakuzas in Waka-Gashira doing the intended strats? I for a fact have never been blown up there in my life except for the first time I attempted the mission in my life (I didn't actually know where Kenji was standing specifically, which is why I was shot at a lot). If you actually know where he is, there is no problem. As credible source that you need to know nothing but that little thing, I have a part of my Let's Play just to prove my point:

Portugal

Rockets are needed for SAM, not Wakagashira (just makes it faster and safer)

South Georgia

the reason people were blowing up in speedruns was because of the old liberator strats without replays. Your cartel cruiser would be almost burning by the time you get to kenji (with old speedrun strats)

Friesland, Netherlands

How did people get their Cartel Cruiser wrecked like that even with old strats?

Germany

I thought about getting 10 rockets at Phil's place during A Drop in the Ocean which is possible with little to no time loss depending on the car you get after Wakagashira, preferably Infernus, because it is a long drive and has the best top speed so you can even switch to the fixed Banshee spawn at Asuka's or get a Banshee for the drive in the first place. With the Stinger I usually was a little late for the last package (not getting it directly after being dropped), I guess Cheetah would lead to the same, but I took the fixed Banshee after the drive, so maybe you could just keep your Stinger/Cheetah in this case, because it's only used for one more mission anyway?

I should maybe add that you can get all the packages without a time loss even if you enter the boat a bit AFTER the timer runs out (like 1-3 seconds ?), but overall this idea would make the mission much more hectic.

I'm not sure about Liberator and Wakagashira though, maybe go to Ammunation for grenades (maybe not needed if we do Wakagashira the intended way?), uzi (also thinking about Bait here) and armor (alternatively could be picked up at Liberty Campus) during Liberator? You neither have to rampage start another mission nor go to the safehouse and you should have enough resources for the rest of the game if you get the 10 rockets afterwards, but this might cost too much time?

EDIT: This is way too slow. I can't see how duping could save time over a great ED. I won't try anymore.

Germany

With the old OG strats in liberator you'd take the fresh Cartel Cruiser that is parked in the place, so please. Besides, like S asked, how would you actually wreck the car that much?

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