The whole problem to begin with is that streaming speedruns inevitably become co-op if they're even somewhat notable. I remember Coach Z meetups back in the day where there would literally be tidal waves of toons trying to fight tooth and nail to enter a cog fight or get into a building with him. You can't tell me that automatically four stacked fights aren't an advantage because you wouldn't have to use gags because the other three could just annihilate any cog in TTC easily.

I'm not going to lie, some good invasions spawned in my run and thus I took advantage of them. We're moving the goalposts though. It's just ridiculous saying that streaming doesn't give you an advantage. I assure you (And when I streamed my main toon before named Eddie, this did happen) that when you stream Toontown, at least one guy will find you and start following you if you name the district (Which guys like Megasnoop conveniently do). I'd get free VP runs, free unites, free help in fights. You name it. A whole herd of people would show up. I just don't consider it a legitimate solo run when you're using your fame for help.

My runs get ruined because people try to "help" LOLOLOLOL But read my last comment please and hopefully we can move on from this ridiculous discussion.

After reading all of the suggestions people have given over the last couple days, the simplest solution to me seems to make it a requirement that solo runs cannot be live streamed. This would basically make every single solo run currently up a co-op run. I just have a couple of concerns with this:

How do we confirm a run was not live streamed? For tasks such as the Mingler one in Daisy Gardens, can't they easily still tell a friend to start an invasion?

Let me know what you guys think. If we can come to an agreement, I'll update the rules tomorrow.

I can prove that my run was not livestreamed, the last time my channel was live was on Friday just for fun. My run was on Saturday starting at 12PM sharp. Perhaps we make a channel repository so we can check if so and so was live?

Also Megasnoop, I think livestreaming does help more than hurt as shown by Gag Strategist co-oping his way to a "WR".

Honestly, I've been trying to get people not to help when I stream, it's just easier for me to do while filming. You also don't know if the person had everything muted and if they were talking to another person while being muted, although it'd be quite obvious. I'll gladly move to co-op if people have an issue with it. I still don't see the big deal, but whatever.

I agree with the concerns that connor has stated.

@jobber I didn't say anything about Gag. I was just talking about me. But again, no need to be hostile. As Connor said, the rules are changing to meet the new found information to try to make a more pleasant and fun experience for everyone. Thank you for your concerns though.

You know Barks, OBS doesn't have to stream. I just clicked the record button and off I went. Besides, it consumes less data than I would be consuming had I streamed it (Data cap, yeah I know it sucks).

I'm sorry for being so hostile, I have IRL anger issues so it's hard for me to control myself in some cases. I'm really concerned about livestreams and co-op in these types of runs because like I stated, practically the only thing left when you get help from friends is button pressing which considering that you don't have to time it like it's Guitar Hero or Stepmania you might as well be TASing. TTR is the one game I've really wanted to speedrun (I joined this site just for it. I wanted to speedrun Goldeneye or Mario 64 but then I remembered that at this point those runs are so optimized that I'd be lucky to come anywhere close to a WR) so I get really scared and angry at the same time when a guy suddenly starts getting help during a solo run, it just doesn't feel right to me.

@jobber I know, I just enjoy streaming more. I can just take Co-Op and move on.