Leaderboards moderation requests thread
9 years ago
Sweden

here is some more info regarding everything Gyoo

http://www.speedrun.com/Bloodborne/thread/bk16a/

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United States

Added XtremePrime to Mickey's Safari in Letterland to clarify/adjust timings and rules

I'll add acarebox to Bloodborne. The categories make no sense right now and a bunch of the any% types overlap or are ambiguous as to which version, so try to organize it in a way that is more readable.

The moderation request handlings are a bit ambiguous/inconsistent at the moment, which emphasizes the need for us to lay out some guidelines/expectations, which I will start working on this week. I don't know exactly when I'll finish.

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France

[quote] I'd like to be a mod of Resident Evil 3's page, because it is my favorite game that I run. Could I be? [/quote]

To us, that doesn't seem to be a good enough reason. You can still ask directly the supermod of Resident Evil 3 (Carcinogen) to add you as a moderator.

[quote] The current Super Mario 3D World Supermod (Rare) has been inactive for about a year. The community would appreciate it if he wasn't a supermod, and that the supermod is replaced by Vallu111 so more mods could be added that currently run the game. Thanks! [/quote]

Done

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United States

I'd like to be added as a moderator for the Mario Kart: Double Dash page. I will be 100% honest and admit that the reason I am requesting this is that I disagree about the category decisions that have been made by the current moderators, none of whom even have a time listed I may add. The fact that I have the 2nd best (listed) time after only Andreas Rudmarker is proof that I know what I'm talking about.

I feel I've shown myself to be a competent moderator since I'm a supermod for the Metroid series and I single-handedly maintain the leaderboards for all three Metroid Prime games, which involved manually entering in more than 200 runs by non-speedrun.com members by myself. I also check the site more than once per day to ensure that new runs are added in a timely fashion, which is apparently more than any of the MKDD mods can say.

/salt

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United States

1: What changes do you want to make to MK:DD?

I've played the game quite a bit, so feel free to explain it like I know what's going on :P Skips, no skips? Timing starts where, lack of cc option, etc?

The Mario Kart series moderators have times in the other games, so I think maybe just Double Dash might not be their main thing.

2: Metroid Prime:

Just mentioning this while we're here. Separate from the MKDD discussion.

Having all times listed as both SS and Non-SS seems really weird to me. I assume segmented allows me to reload as many times as I want to optimize the in-game timer. The single-segment runs do not utilize this option, so I think it is misleading to put them in the same table.

The line of thought would be similar to saying a generic 100% run completes any%, but shouldn't be listed in the any% table because the criteria is radically different.

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United States

MKDD:

The changes I want to make are to track Mirror Mode times and default to sorting by IGT. One of the current moderators has shot me down on both counts. The reason for Mirror Mode not being tracked is that it's not different enough from 150cc and the reason it's currently sorted by RTA is to prevent people from playing on 50Hz. I don't really feel either of those are very good reasons.

Metroid Prime:

I have a few points of discussion here.

The reason that there are a lot of SS times also listed as segmented times is that SS runs qualify as segmented runs by default. (A segmented run with 1 segment, for example.) It would be disingenuous to only show runs with more than one segment on the segmented leaderboards since most all of the top times were done SS, and literally anybody could just save at the last possible save station and redo the final fight and get the same time, but with 2 segments. There's no need for that.

For reference, the best segmented run that was actually planned as a segmented run was Sparky's 1:01 which he did in 15 segments. Miles has a 0:56 SS and T3 has a 0:54 SS, so showing any leaderboard with a 1:01 as the top time wouldn't really make any sense since there have been more recent runs done with faster routes and a higher levels of execution.

All that being said, I'm personally very sympathetic to the crowd who don't think that segmented runs (at least for Metroid Prime) should be on the site in the first place. The reason I added them is that I encountered a significant amount of backlash from the community when I didn't add them. A lot of top players insisted vehemently that both categories be included in any leaderboards claiming to represent the community, so I pretty much just gave in to the pressure.

For reference, the total number of times anyone has submitted a new segmented PB for any of the three games is... zero. Every time someone submits a new SS PB I have to go edit their segmented time manually, and no one who uses this site has submitted a multi-segment run since I created the leaderboards.

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United States

MKDD:

I added you. I tend to think tracking more things is better than less if it's all good information that doesn't add clutter.

Metroid Prime:

If that's what the community actually wants I guess that's fine. It looks strange to me personally putting all the times in both tables when the single segment runs are just suboptimal segmented runs. A 100% run is an any% run but people don't put it in both categories. I guess I'm just rambling at this point, I don't have a preference if that's what the community wants.

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Arizona, USA

I would like to request a switch in moderation for Long Live the Queen. This is based on a few reasons but mostly based on the fact that the current moderator for the game has never run the game.

And after I submitted a run for the any% category I asked them about a strange restriction in the any% rules. To which they promptly changed the category to be that rule, showing a lack of understand about what any% means.

I don't think someone who doesn't run a game should be allowed to make decisions about the game, and if I was moderator I would open discussion to the people that actually run the game to collectively decide.

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United States

I'm happy to get rid of some percentage sign categories.

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United States

Thanks for the help KirkQ.

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California, USA

I'm requesting to be removed from all boards I'm currently mod of, being Streets of Rage 1, 3 & 3. Thanks!

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United States

Done.

(I think super moderators can remove themselves, but ideally all moderators should be able to. Although I'm not sure if it warns or lets you if there's only one moderator left.)

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California, USA

Hey there, requesting to moderator of Oceanhorn: Monster of uncharted seas. Ukebae is the only active mod and it would be nice to have 2.

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United States

I think super moderators can remove themselves, but ideally all moderators should be able to. Although I'm not sure if it warns or lets you if there's only one moderator left.

Yes, you can remove yourself as moderator and no, it doesn't warn you if you're the only mod or supermod. (I did this once and had to get an admin to re-add me lol)

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Pennsylvania, USA

Requesting to be added as a moderator for Kid Chameleon. The WR time & link is outdated, but the only mod hasn't logged in in over a month and hasn't responded to the twitch message I sent him a couple weeks ago.

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Bavaria, Germany

[quote=Skull64] Yes, you can remove yourself as moderator and no, it doesn't warn you if you're the only mod or supermod. (I did this once and had to get an admin to re-add me lol) [/quote] It will prevent you from removing the only supermod. Admittedly that prevention was broken for a while but it is working now.

[quote=jymotion] Requesting to be added as a moderator for Kid Chameleon. The WR time & link is outdated, but the only mod hasn't logged in in over a month and hasn't responded to the twitch message I sent him a couple weeks ago. [/quote] Done.

[quote=QuitRage] Hey there, requesting to moderator of Oceanhorn: Monster of uncharted seas. Ukebae is the only active mod and it would be nice to have 2. [/quote] Apart from the fact that there are already 2 mods, if Ukebae is active you should talk to him about getting added as a mod. As per the first post: [quote] Please keep in mind that using this thread is somewhat a last resort, in case the current moderators are not responding or refusing your help without justification. You should always start by asking the Super mods of a game/series as they are also able to add mods. [/quote]

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United States

Oh, never mind then. Glad to see that got fixed.

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New South Wales, Australia

Hello all,

I was the member that requested the Trauma Center games be added to speedrun.com (I can provide proof with the notification if necessary).

May I please be a moderator of the Trauma Center series? Irisjoker is currently the only moderator and I'd like to help out since I also run the game(s).

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Victoria, Australia
stoot
He/Him, They/Them
8 years ago

Have you tried contacting him over Twitch or Twitter?

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Massachusetts, USA

I noticed recently that Skull64 has been made a moderator for MKDD and that the Mario Kart series moderators no longer have access to MKDD. With no indication of what had happened, despite having been in an active conversation with Skull64 (http://www.speedrun.com/mkdd/thread/bgq8u), I was puzzled and looked for some form of explanation, which led me to this thread.

Based on what I’ve read here, I have to question the appropriateness of how this matter was handled. For one, I find it rather underhanded on Skull64’s part that he would petition for an admin to grant him the ability to overrule the then-current state of the leaderboards while we were in the midst of a civil debate. Furthermore, once these powers were granted, one of Skull64’s first actions was to remove series moderators’ access to MKDD, and he refrained from making any mention of this turn of events on the game’s forum, which in my eyes is essentially a forcible termination of the ongoing discussion through power seizure and abuse. I am also concerned, although to a lesser degree, by how kirkq handled this request. From the information available to me in this thread, it doesn’t seem that kirkq was aware of the thread in the MKDD forum, and, as far as I can tell, made no attempt at finding any information about this situation other than what was provided by Skull64’s posts. Please correct me if I am mistaken. I think it’s necessary for me to bring this up here, because this is the second time that an admin grants MKDD moderator status with seemingly minimal thought to someone whose immediate response is to rescind series moderators’ access to MKDD in order to impose their vision of an improved leaderboard (said vision was different in the first case).

While I have no qualms with continuing the debate about how the MKDD leaderboards should be presented, I would appreciate it if the state of MKDD moderation was returned to what it was a few days ago. I believe that although I am certainly not perfect, the change brought forth by Skull64’s request is both unnecessary and unwarranted.

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