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New Super Mario Bros. Wii Forum  /  5-2 instead of 5-3...???

Sibby18Sibby18

(He/Him)

United States

  Sibby18Sibby18
19 Aug 2022, 00:30

Recently I found a TAS video of 5-2 being completed with a 449 on the in-game-time, about five mario seconds faster than the optimal 5-3 method. Here it is:

If there technically is a faster way to complete 5-2 than 5-3, why is no one going for it? I don't know if I'm underestimating the difficulty in the helicopter trick, but I really do think this could be the future of insane runs.

 

FlamingTulip96FlamingTulip96

  FlamingTulip96FlamingTulip96
19 Aug 2022, 04:02

I have been thinking that 5-2 is faster because I (An amateur runner) can get the same IGT as optimal 5-3 and I'm sure top-level runners can do much better than me.

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Sibby18Sibby18

(He/Him)

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  Sibby18Sibby18
19 Aug 2022, 20:02

I totally agree with you. I am also new to speedrunning, yet even with none of the speedups and bad movement I was still able to get 445, which ties the record for 5-3 with the propeller.

If any top-level runner sees this forum I recommend to them to try out this method!

 

FlamingTulip96FlamingTulip96

  FlamingTulip96FlamingTulip96
19 Aug 2022, 21:47

the only reason I could see it being slower is because there are two pipe entries in 5-2 compared to just one in 5-3.

 

CadsCads

(He/Him, They/Them)

British Columbia, Canada

  CadsCads
19 Aug 2022, 21:51

Even with a 449 it is slower because of the extra pipe transition losing more time than 4IGT (which is the difference between optimal 5-3 and optimal 5-2) even without loads since w/o loads only removes the black screen and not mario entering the pipe and the fade to black in and out.
Good idea tho, loses less for 24 runs because the extra complete black screen is removed.

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Sibby18Sibby18

(He/Him)

United States

  Sibby18Sibby18
19 Aug 2022, 23:25 (edited: 21 Aug 2022, 18:18)

Wow, I just spent hours getting good at this level. The pipe entries slipped my mind, sorry if I was a bit over excited. Anyway, back to the drawing board.

 

PearPear

(He/Him)

United States

  PearPear
20 Aug 2022, 00:47 (edited: 20 Aug 2022, 00:47)

Just record an IL run for 5-2. Then your practice won’t be wasted.

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KilleDragonKilleDragon

Basque Country

  KilleDragonKilleDragon
20 Aug 2022, 01:04

as well, to be fair, a TAS obviusly is a perfect game of the level, and it wouldnt realy save as much time if a human isnt as perfect playing
this IL in the TAS presents some precise movements in getting the fastest slope-wiggler jumps and even mantaining them with a prop at the end of the level

 
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