FF confusion.
3 years ago
Ireland

https://www.speedrun.com/jelly_drift/run/z18v239y this run uses the same routing as my run https://www.speedrun.com/jelly_drift/run/z50ld2dy I don't know why mods did this as indigu verified the current wr but neo rejected my faster but the same route that the run that indigu verified.

either reject the 49 or verify my run please

Bewerkt door de auteur 3 years ago
Pherme vinden dit leuk
South Holland, Netherlands

The FF leaderboard is scuffed, the top3 runs are all unintended route and imo should be removed

Pherme vinden dit leuk
Riverside, CA, USA

The run is legal, based on the current rules, I think that Neo. might not know it was legalized. Also @JamezvbdB there is about to be a big change, intended is going to become No Major Skips, so when that happens this will be legalized. Neo. seems to not want the inclusion of No Skips, at least for now, so runs with no skips might not come tommorow. Just wait...

South Holland, Netherlands

So basically that 2 second skip is not major? I call for more discussion as I think a 2 second shortcut is quite significant, also NMS would exclude developer intended shortcuts like PP and completely overthrow the current leaderboards. I also say this having set WR on all other Intended Route levels, just waiting for mods to confirm my times, but I think we need community discussion on this rule change

Riverside, CA, USA

They what do you consider a minor skip? A major skip is one that breaks the level, basically skipping checkpoints, jumping fences and rails, etc. Hopefully this clears some things up.

Riverside, CA, USA

A 2 second time save isn't major when compared to something like jumping the fence in FF which can save up to 5 seconds depending on how you do it. Minor ones are also ones that you notice when playing the game casually (though they don't have to be)

United States

I thought that was legal

Riverside, CA, USA

The fence skip is not legal. Sorry for the confusion.

South Holland, Netherlands

I consider the turn up the hill a skip, I guess it would be a minor skip, but I think the leaderboards of the current Intended Route category should turn into glitchless/no skips since the current goal is to follow the route the dev intended

Riverside, CA, USA

What do you mean by turn up the hill?

Also, the mods (and kinda me) are planning on changing the name of intended and adding a new category to remove confusion. The rules will be adjusted to make more sense too. I can't confirm this will happen, since I'm not yet a mod, but it's the most likely option to happen.

South Holland, Netherlands

I dont think there was any confusion at all with intended route, the name is not ambiguous, changing the categories and adding more complicated rules per category is confusing. The only question we had was why the first hill skip in FF is accepted as it is NOT an intended shortcut, nobody else who was read the rules had a question about what is considered intended

Riverside, CA, USA

What is the Hill Skip?

Riverside, CA, USA

Because, the actual hill Skip is banned, and is only used in Any%.

Egypt

@dylancubr9 There will be a major change in the categories, so your current issue will be fixed by then.

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