What are going to be the rules on this?
8 years ago
Rochester, NY, USA

So, Hikari made a video of him doing a speedrun of mission 30.

What he does is odd, he starts off the mission by placing C4 on the ground and blowing himself up. Getting into critical health state. Which slows down the game, he then walks the entire level, gets to the end beats the mission. To top it off, he gets S Rank, FOXHOUND AND, beats the current WR for this IL by a lot. So uh, is this going to be banned? Separate category that allows this? This is very very important.

Sweden

Several of my runs already do this and are accepted. There's a discussion thread about it that went pretty much nowhere.

Switzerland

not this shit again... the discussion did not go nowhere... we pretty much decided this is dumb and we should switch to RTA timing.... and because nobody wanted to go back and manually retime every run, nothing much happend.... and then pretty much everyone left and stopped running this game... so it just kinda got left like that...

creating a seperate category for ingame time abuse strats sounds pretty boring... but hey if you wanna run it, knock yourself out....

playing a game in slowmotion is almost literally the opposite of a speedrun, arguing that this is faster in anyway just because the game says so, is dumb. the situation we have with this game (lying IGT) is pretty much the reason RTA was "invented"

so to answer your question.... theres really no need to ban this since his run is literally 10 times (2min vs 20 min) as slow as the best run currently. just look at the friggin youtube video lenght for gods sake.... the score card at the end of the mission is WRONG. we figured that out months ago... trying to find new creavtive ways of cheating the IGT, just leads to incredibly shitty gameplay.... perma slowmo, pill poppin, reflex spammin and is not something that should be encouraged

Sweden

I say it went nowhere because I DID manually retime every run and nothing came of it. I sent this to the mods on the day I finished it (it's now obviously outdated) http://pastebin.com/sRG8M6vz (I just noticed a few errors but I guess I shouldn't edit them for posterity's sake)

Switzerland

the Mods are pretty much MIA.... last time a mod posted on these forums was almost 2 months ago... in my thread asking if the game is ded... lol

i could be wrong, but i think most of out mods, if not all, have quit running this game and dont really want to do the mod work.

so what we really need is to change the leaderboards to RTA and resubmit our runs. or change the leaderboards to RTA and have a mod retime each run.

we could also rename the current leaderboard as IGT and then just create a RTA leaderboard and resubmit... this would probably be the easiest method and if some crazy mofo wanna run igt they still could

how would we go about switching the leaderboards to RTA? how do you become a mod on this site?

one of the main reason i kinda lost my drive to improve my runs is these goddamn jokers that pop up every couple weeks with some new janky IGT abuse which is so very clearly slower, yet they still try to argue its faster somehow... the run in this thread is friggin 20 minutes (for a 2 minute mission) long! its absurd! so if we can finally get this in order id be way more motivated

Switzerland

so i just noticed that this new guy karna actually beat the IGT for mission 1... a mission i had considerd pretty much done x)...

so i wanted to check if there is way to improve it.

added both videos to youtube doubler to check where he gained/lost time...

and as far as i can tell paxtons old run is faster... even though the IGT says hes slower by like a second.

heres the link to compare:

http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DA4UyF1LQGlE&start1=5&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpJ1buRAQf3g&start2=0&authorName=MGSV+Mission+1

so karna reaches the box platform slightly faster... but then they exit the box almost at the same time... i guess this has to do with load times... but after that paxton is faster... he reaches kaz faster and reaches the chopper faster... still the IGT says his run is slower....

so im curious... could you time these RTA? im really not sure which of these runs is faster if you remove load times.... since the first half karna is faster, but the second half payton is faster

Switzerland

ok sooooooo i was just looking at the leaderboards... and at least the ANY% S RANK leaderboard is already RTA .... lol sneaky

look at mission 3 for example... event though there are 2 times that are faster then mine, mine still shows as number 1 cause its the only one that has the RTA field filled out.

so i guess all thats left to do is resubmit the runs with actual RTA

Netherlands

As much as I love using IGT, it's just too broken for this game. Using RTA is definetly the best option.

But yes we need mods for that. And all the current ones are dead. So we need to get new ones assigned. A super mod could assign new mods, but if those are inactive too we need to contact Pac probably