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Mission 01 Phantom Limbs
Mission 02 Diamond Dogs
Mission 03 A Hero's Way
Mission 04 C2W
Mission 05 Over the Fence
Mission 06 Where do the Bees Sleep?
Mission 07 Red Brass
Mission 08 Occupation Forces
Mission 09 Backup, Back Down
Mission 10 Angel with Broken Wings
Mission 11 Cloaked in Silence
Mission 12 Hellbound
Mission 13 Pitch Dark
Mission 14 Lingua Franca
Mission 15 Footprints of Phantoms
Mission 16 Traitors' Caravan
Mission 17 Rescue the Intel Agents
Mission 18 Blood Runs Deep
Mission 19 On the Trail
Mission 20 Voices
Mission 21 The War Economy
Mission 22 Retake the Platform
Mission 23 The White Mamba
Mission 24 Close Contact
Mission 25 Aim True, Ye Vengeful
Mission 26 Hunting Down
Mission 27 Root Cause
Mission 28 Code Talker
Mission 29 Metallic Archaea
Mission 30 Skull Face
Mission 31 Sahelanthropus
Mission 32 To Know Too Much
Mission 33 C2W (Subsistence)
Mission 34 Backup, Back Down (Extreme)
Mission 35 Cursed Legacy
Mission 36 Footprints of Phantoms (Total Stealth)
Mission 37 Traitors' Caravan (Extreme)
Mission 38 Extraordinary
Mission 39 Over the Fence (Total Stealth)
Mission 40 Cloaked in Silence (Extreme)
Mission 41 Proxy War Without End
Mission 42 Metallic Archaea (Extreme)
Mission 43 Shining Lights, Even in Death
Mission 44 Pitch Dark (Total Stealth)
Mission 45 A Quiet Exit
Mission 46 Truth: The Man Who Sold the World
Mission 47 The War Economy (Total Stealth)
Mission 48 Code Talker (Extreme)
Mission 49 Occupation Forces (Subsistence)
Mission 50 Sahelanthropus (Extreme)
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Hello Everyone, Me and @Steg_DarkhorseSteg_Darkhorse have been thinking about allowing certain rank-lowering items for the PSNK and NO TRACES categories. This thread will serve as both a poll and discussion topic. This discussion came up in part due to how the board currently has runs that conflict with the listed rules (i.e.: PSNK does not allow the use of anything rank restricting, but bombardments have been used in runs and do not break the PSNK bonus. The Parasite Suit is listed as banned for NO TRACES because of rank restrictions, but the mist parasites does not lower your rank and has been used in NO TRACES runs). In order to clear up what is and isn't allowed while also keeping to the community wishes, we'd like to invite runners to give their opinions on some of these potential changes and clarifications. Please note that depending on how this discussion goes, SOME RUNS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE IL LEADERBOARD. Please keep that in mind. Here's a list of all rank-lowering items: Uniforms: (every uniform increases it's defense by "1" every Grade from the 6th. Battle Dress increases it's defense by "1" every Grade from the 3rd.) Items: Helicopter: Fire Support: (all types of Bombardments breaks NO TRACES.) Buddy Equipment: The polls where separated by item type and category. Meaning you could vote for certain items being allowed for PSNK and, at the same time, banned for the NO TRACES category. (The Items mentioned in this list are the same mentioned on the list above.) Uniforms: - allow all Uniforms for NO TRACES; Items: - allow all Items but the Flare Grenade for NO TRACES; Air Support: - allow Air Support for NO TRACES; Fire Support: Buddy Equipment: Vote here! https://strawpoll.gg/poll_set/my-poll-set-102 We appreciate your time and contributions! If any clarification is needed just leave a comment. |
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Definitely allow all uniforms for PSNK. not all for NO TRACES, given how you would just be able to tank Extreme Sally and Skulls with the highest grade uniforms, so only the +3 defense ones. Can't say I'm a fan of allowing the downright broken stealth camos, so that's a no no. But I think it would be fun messing around with the flares for PSNK. Air Support is kinda dumb, simply calling Pequod to and LZ has the same affect and doesn't break the PSNK or NO TRACES bonuses. So for me Air Support is a no for both. In regards to allowing certain Bombardments for PSNK. I think that regular bombardments will just be too op for certain missions. Can't see why Smokes, Sleeping Gas or Chaff should be banned. Still unsure about allowing Weather Modification, might change my stance on it. Fulton Ballista for PSNK? why not. |
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I'm voting for keeping all as is, while it would be cool to see some runs with fulton ballista and all that, it makes some of the missions significantly easier which (in my opinion) destroys the point of perfect stealth or/and no traces |
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After more than a month, and the small interaction with the post, we decided to lock the thread. No major changes will be made to the rules. But we specified that "Parasite (Camouflage)" is not allowed instead of "Parasite Suit", hopefully that will avoid confusion. |
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