Hello, i'd like to clear some things up about all the categories, why is 100% in misc for starters? Not that it matters right now. Adding more categories should be mentioned, because i'll be doing All Missions /NG+/Any% or whatever you want to call it tomorrow most likely, not sure yet.

I routed them myself for All Missions, as fast possible, so i dont know if it should be called Any% or All Missions, as it's technically beating the game as fast possible, without doing the important side ops however since they cant be replayed. I dont think an NG file should be considered Any%, but True ending%, as it's trying to get the final ending.

True ending% would skip the Quiet ending and all of the re-do missions, so you technically aren't ''beating'' the game, but just getting the ending. I dont know myself tbh, it's confusing, so i'm hoping this thread clears some shit up.

What do you think?

Are you wanting to do all 50 missions from a completed save? That would be NG+ All Missions.

It's not any%, because it's a completion level beyond what it takes to complete the game.

Beating mission 46 is definitely one kind of "beating the game." You're not playing all the missions, but you don't need to play all the missions to get the end game credits. You need to beat mission 46.

Beating the game generally means getting the game to a state where the game says "you won." Even if a regular player wouldn't consider themselves to have completed the game until they beat mission 45, the game doesn't really acknowledge that in any way.

As for new categories, if you make a run, and the category isn't in the list (as it would be for NG+ all missions,) as long as it's reasonable, it will be added.

It can be looked at a bunch of ways because of Kojima's design and technically every mission is an ''ending'', because he wanted it to be episodic. The first unskippable credits are at Mission 31. Technically beating the game would be the nuclear ending.

I guess NG+ All Missions would be most accurate, but in this case, what'll be considered Any% for this game? Guess there won't be one as there's so many variables.

Like in an NG file once you get past 31, you have to pass time to trigger MB cutscenes and progress to 46 eventually. But doing the extreme versions of the re-do missions would make it All Missions, no?

In this case we can get rid of ''All Missions'' and make it Any%, but you still have four extra missions after 46, so we have to decide if we want four categories instead of two, we can agree to do those four extra missions, or, find other ways to trigger mission 46 like doing side ops.

All missions isn't any%. The game has two endings, one after 31, and one after 46. Neither of which require you to complete every mission.

That not really that hard to understand to me Any% Do whatever you want to achive your goal wich is then First(31) or Second ending(50) i don't belive that 46 is a right ending, unless it's NG and even then..

NG+ is either NG+ any%, NG+ ANY% S rank (wich allow you to do kills, and alert, but no rank lowering mechanic), NG+ Total Stealth, NG+ Raiden. and then, i do aggre there is a problem at the moment, every category should have First and Second ending. Wich for me stand for 31, and 50.

Any% it self for MGSV category (at the moment) doesn't stand has when your run is over. It's stand for the mean you'r allowed to use to achive your goal.

But that's just me i might be totaly wrong of thinking it that way.