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  letterswordsletterswords

(copy-pasting this to both mass effect 2 and 3 forums)

I've recently discovered that by .ini file edits (similar to how we rebind text skipping to mousewheel) we can make unskippable cutscenes skippable (in mass effect 2 and 3), because all that determines if a cutscene is skippable or not is just an ini file line that goes "SkippableMovies=" followed by the name of the movie file associated with relevant cutscenes. By just adding more lines like this for cutscenes that aren't currently skippable, we would be able to skip those cutscenes.

Here's the question: should this be legal in speedruns?

My thoughts: yes, it should. It is a very easy edit to make (just copy-paste in some lines like we do for mousewheel text skipping). It serves basically the same purpose as mousewheel skipping as well: removing some of the dumb slow stuff that isn't gameplay to make the run more enjoyable. Making the run more fun to do is worth quite a lot, I think.

Doing this also wouldn't necessarily be unprecedented compared to other speedruns. I was asking some other speedrunners (albeit not Mass Effect runners) what they thought about this situation, and one mentioned that Prince of Persia: Warrior Within literally just deletes the entire cutscene folder in order to achieve a similar purpose.

Curious what anyone else who may or may not be paying attention to these forums/ran these games thinks.

 
  retro_gamers_incretro_gamers_inc

Sure I don't see an issue with doing this. It's like you said we are already changing the ini for text skip why not cutscenes as well. I also agree it will make the run more fun and not such a pain to do attempts. I'm really curious how much time this takes off ME3. Do you have a guide on what to edit to do this?

 
  letterswordsletterswords
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here's what you need to do:
download some kind of mass effect 3 coalesced editor
find the bioengine->fullscreenmovies->skippablemovies section

compare the list of movie files there to the files in the /Mass Effect 3/BIOGame/Movies folder
add anything that isn't already included under new lines of "SkippableMovies=" where the equals sign is followed by the name of the file (you can look at pre-existing examples to see how it is phrased).

 
  DojibironDojibiron

Like you said we already use similiar change for the mousewheel so I don't see why not use it for the cutscene either, it kinda serve the same purpose.
Also I was planning to get back to Mass Effects runs now that I'm unemployed would make my life better than watching the same 30 minutes cutscenes every time.

 
  retro_gamers_incretro_gamers_inc

Ok so I did enough work on this to get a list of movies during the run that are not listed in the skippablemovies section. I also figured out that the DLC movies are not stored in the /Mass Effect 3/BIOGame/Movies folder but in a file in the dlc folder. I was able to figure out what the name of the two Extended Cut movies are so I can test if this works with the DLC.

It also looks like there is at least one typo with the files and entries in the file so there is at least one cutscene that was supposed to be skipable that is not.

Anyways below is the list of the movies to add to bioengine->fullscreenmovies->skippablemovies I will do some off stream testing tonight and see what works.

Cat004_arrival_pt1
Cat004_arrival_pt3
Cat004_Cit_Close
Cat004_Loop
Cithub_Load01 - Cithub_Load08
End001_ShuttleDown_End
End001_ShuttleDown_Start
End01_HammerFail
End01_HammerIntro
End01_HammerLand
End01_Sheild_Intro
End01_Sword_Bad_Pt1
End01_Sword_Bad_Pt2
End01_Sword_Descent
End01_Sword_Good
End01_Sword_intro_pt2
End01_Sword_intro_pt3AD
End01_Sword_intro_pt3DA
End01_Sword_intro_pt4G
End01_Sword_intro_pt4G
End01_Sword_intro_pt6
End01_Sword_intro_pt8
End01_Sword_intro_pt10
End002_Smls_Tunnel
End02_Cit_Flower
End03_Anderson_Short
End03_Device_Dock
End03_Im_Short
Ght002_Geth_Death
GLO_01_Relay
Gth001_Arrival_Pt1
Gth001_Arrival_pt2
Gth001_Depart
Gth002_Quar_Death
Gth002_QuarBomb_Gun
Kro001_100_SurArrival_pt2
Kro001_ExoIntro_Drop
Kro002_Convoy_PR
Kro002_Cure_PR
Kro002_CurePR_01
Kro002_CurePR_03
Kro002_Fight_pt1
Kro002_Fight_pt2
Kro002_Fight_Pt3
load_f01
ME3_ProCit_Loop
Nor_CIC
Nor_PreHenchmanSelect
norend_hackett_speech_Geth
NorEnd_Hackett_Speech_Intro
norend_hackett_Speech_quarian
norend_hackett_Speech_Turian
NorKro_SummitVid_Mordin
NorKro_SummitVid_Padok
NumberReel
ProCit_100_Arrival
ProCit_Arrival_Generic
ProEar_Intro_Pt2
ProEar_Intro_Pt2_Fem
ProEar_Intro_Pt4
ProEar_Intro_Pt6
ProEar_Intro_Pt6_Fem
ProEar_Intro_Pt8
ProMar_Arrival_pt1
ProMar_Arrival_pt2
ProMar_Depart
ProMar_EscapePt2_Joker
ProMar_Escapept4_Est
ProMar_IM_Cutaway
ProMar_Smls_Load
Smls_Kro001
Smls_NorFTL
Smls_NorLoopLF
Smls_NorLoopRt
Smls_ShutLoop_Kro002
Smls_ShutSpace_LF
Smls_ShutSpace_RT

Extended cut
End002_Crush
End03_Device_Dock_Bad

 
  letterswordsletterswords

sounds cool, i'll be interested to hear how it goes.

 
  retro_gamers_incretro_gamers_inc

Well I did learn something today, don't make the loading screens skip able It really breaks the game. I'll need to remove the loading screens from my list above. I just started my off stream testing and this is the first thing I found.

 
  retro_gamers_incretro_gamers_inc

Well here is an update. Unfortunately none of the Extended cut cutscenes are skip able. So that means no extended cut is still the fastest. Also it looks like none of the big Earth cutscenes are skip able. I think there were a couple of small ones that worked but I couldn't really tell.

Thinking about the loading screens it may still be possible to skip them and not have the game mess up. This would work if you wait until the loading notification is gone before skipping. You probably won't save much time and it may not be worth it if you accidently break the game.

My testing so far has been from Sanctuary until Earth so I still haven't tested a full run. I will take a brake for now and do a full run in a bit. I may stream it we'll see.

 
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