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Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympic Games (DS) Forum  /  Party Games Mode Speedruns?

L.RL.R

(He/Him)

Merseyside, UK

  L.RL.R
23 Feb 2022, 11:45

If there was a category where you have to play one round of any of the "Party Games" modes within the game (Bingo Bash, Lucky Spin or Wild Card), would anyone actually be interested in doing any runs for it?

 

JenteJJenteJ

Netherlands

  JenteJJenteJ
23 Feb 2022, 12:52 (edited: 23 Feb 2022, 12:54)

I've been thinking about this earlier, but the party games are very slow and mostly RNG. But after checking again I like the Idea! But we need to make catogorys for every kind of tule these could be a lot:

Bingo Bash 1 Bingo all events
Bingo Bash 1 Bingo only olympics
Bingo Bash 1 Bingo only dream
Bingo Bash 2 Bingo all events
Bingo bash 2 Bingo only olympics
Bingo Bash 2 Bingo only dream
Bingo Bash 3 Bingo all events
Bingo Bash 3 Bingo only olympics
Bingo Bash 3 Bingo only dream

So maybe just 1/2/3 bingo and the player can decide if they want only dream, olympics or all?

Lucky Spin 3/4/5 turns and all event/only olympics/only dreams again

Wild Card 5/7/10 and all event/only olympics/only dreams again

Or just the least amount of bingos/turns?

And we have handicaps too

Here are my thoughts on the party games:

For Bingo Bash:
The only strat would be choosing between sometimes losing a event so you don't have to sit it out, of winning for the stamp. And sometimes wheather you wasn't to keep stopping the Rolling Balls and Big Bullet Bill . Not a big fan of this one

For Lucky Spin:
Ok so here there is it more strat because you 'choose' which even you play. There are some tricks here like skipping the opponent countdown. Honestly would like this one. You have a amount of turns, need to choose between RNG/a fast event (maybe they are in a set way, I could do some research on that). There is some RNG bullshit, but it sounds fun.

For Wild Card:
This one is RNG heavier again and slower but still fine? We already have the mini-game catogory that's mostly RNG. But this is

 

L.RL.R

(He/Him)

Merseyside, UK

  L.RL.R
23 Feb 2022, 12:56 (edited: 23 Feb 2022, 13:01)

I'm pretty sure if you pick Lucky Spin or Wild Card, you could potentially manipulate the slot that chooses events, to get the one that you want with precise timing.

As for the handicap, I was thinking either no handicaps whatsoever, or that if you do give yourself a handicap, you have to do the same to the COMs (I.e If you give yourself 1 crossed out square in Bingo Bash, you have to do the same to your opponents.) so that there would be a level playing field.

 

JenteJJenteJ

Netherlands

  JenteJJenteJ
23 Feb 2022, 13:07 (edited: 23 Feb 2022, 13:09)

That's what I think too.

Also for Wild Card, if we allow handicaps, this can happen https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842797764055662615/946029631876788244/IMG_20220223_140347.jpg
making a 1 turn fout of a kind and you are done after 1 event

But without handicaps it can also happen but pure RNG. I think allowing handicaps is better, but would make it really lame to run

 

JenteJJenteJ

Netherlands

  JenteJJenteJ
23 Feb 2022, 13:18

And with bingo Bash I had a card with handicaps where you only needed Amy and a event.

Or a card like this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842797764055662615/946032048685080618/Screenshot_2022-02-23-14-13-25-609_com.miui.videoplayer.jpg

I would say that Lucky Spin 100% should be allowed because you need to play 3 events anyway.

Bingo Bash will be (with handicaps) getting the 2 right 'person symbols'
Wild Card will be playing the fastest event
Lucky Spin will be playing the 3 fastest events

I would love some catogorys using non speed events or combining events but party mode with handicaps doesn't make this game 'better', only more boards.

Without handicaps Lucky Spin doesn't change
Wild Card will just be RNG to get a 4 of a kind first

And Bingo Bash will be the long drag it ever was

 

L.RL.R

(He/Him)

Merseyside, UK

  L.RL.R
23 Feb 2022, 13:20

I got one on Bingo Bash where I got four in a row and only needed Knuckles, so potentially you may not need to play a single event.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aN-S_6GT5hBbvOxtrILDgpwZ_V5eNcKf/view?usp=drivesdk

 

JenteJJenteJ

Netherlands

  JenteJJenteJ
23 Feb 2022, 13:23 (edited: 23 Feb 2022, 13:24)

Can't acces the picture but that seems to be the best possible. Got 4 stamped ones in a row and get the character/star first roll. Sounds not fun imo, it's just rerolling bingo cards and bingo Rolls over and over

 

L.RL.R

(He/Him)

Merseyside, UK

  L.RL.R
23 Feb 2022, 13:27

Yeah so we can probably rule out Bingo because of how much luck is required and how it could either go on for ages or it could be done very quickly, both of which is pretty boring.

 

JenteJJenteJ

Netherlands

  JenteJJenteJ
23 Feb 2022, 13:39 (edited: 23 Feb 2022, 13:48)

I agree. Then we have Wild Card. I think allowing ha handicaps is the best? There is a very big chance you only play play one event then but without handicaps it's still the same idea.

0 open you only know your 4 and 1 from someone else (who lost the event) and nobody has 4 of the same (I think we can also rule out 3 since that never happened to me but could be RNG)

2 open you know 6/12 + 1 from someone else (who lost te event) so their whole hand and nobody has 4 of the same

The differences between knowing 5/18 or 11/18 is huge, but practical not that much.

Let's say we have 2 of the same card, the opponent that loses reveals that card so we grab that one

Then we have 11 cards, one of which is the one we need to make 4 of kind.

I think a 9% is big enough to that people will get it, and nu nog allowing handicaps you only make the run 11× longer to practise.

 

JenteJJenteJ

Netherlands

  JenteJJenteJ
23 Feb 2022, 13:53

For Bingo we can look at the multiple bingos though. We can make:

1 bingo, choosing which kind of events you play
2 bingo, choosing which kind of events you play
3 bingo, choosing which kind of events you play
And we can decide if handicaps are allowed or not

Wild card, handicaps allowed, choosing which kind of event you play

For Lucky Spin handicap doesn't make a difference since it only gives points. But this can lead to 'lose strats'. I think it would be funny to lose events to get through the turns as quick as possible and those 100 points can work as a buffer.

Lucky Spin 3 turn, choosing which kind of event you play handicaps allowed
Lucky Spin 4 turn, choosing which kind of event you play handicaps allowed
Lucky Spin 5 turn, choosing which kind of event you play handicaps allowed

I think that sounds pretty ok. Maybe Bingo Bash not at all but that would look weird too since the other party games will have a board. Wild Card might be boring too, but it isn't as bad as bingo 1 bingo

 

L.RL.R

(He/Him)

Merseyside, UK

  L.RL.R
23 Feb 2022, 18:10 (edited: 23 Feb 2022, 18:11)

Alright I had a go at trying to deliberately lose in Lucky Spin.
I still won by 60 points, thanks mostly to the fact I got a lucky +50 on the first spin.

 
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