Glitchless category?
3 years ago
Colombia

Hi, guys, I want to start speedrunning this game, and I want to know, is there any glitchless category that I can learn? I do not enjoy glitching games xD

KurgerBing likes this
United States

no there isnt glitchless

United States

I can imagine that defining what is and isn't a glitch in this game would become quite difficult. If someone were to do a glitchless run that I could watch I would consider adding the category, but I don't want to add it without at least one run to put on the board.

PabloDexter likes this
Colombia

Let me get to work on it! jajaja, let´s see how it goes.

Thx for the reply.

Mexico

Actually, Im practicing a glitchless run too, yesterday I've got one. Where I can submit the run?

Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Italy

You gotta contact one of the mods and ask for a glitchless category, but I don't think they will add it unless there are enough requests

Hamburg, Germany

Furthermore since LN2 just came out and runs and times flooding in our mods are pretty busy right now.

United States

I mean most of the "skips" aren't exactly glitches so it would definitely take some time to define what exactly is a glitch

United States

I'll start then. I've given some thought to glitchless runs so here's my take on all the significant strats.

I'm confident that these would be banned:

  • Light Skip Zip (Insane Push)
  • Risky/Safe Pulley Skip (No Fall Damage)
  • Hook Warp (Out of Bounds)

Depending on what the community thinks, I feel these strats could go either way:

  • Hunger Skips (Overwriting an animation with another to minimize slowdown)
  • Jumping through prison bars instead of squeezing through (Minor strat but mentioning it anyways)
  • Janitor Grab Bait ("Breaks" the boss fight allowing you to touch his arms, which would normally result in death)
  • Sausage Skip / Monkey Jump (Something something physics)

I would personally allow all of the following strats, but of course everything is up for discussion.

  • Checkpoint Abuse
  • Chair Skip
  • Bed Skip
  • Walking around the first hunger in the Kitchen
  • Garbage Pit Skip
  • Early Elevator

It is a good idea not to ask too much of the mods with LN2 just coming out, but if some runners want a glitchless category then we need to agree on a rulebook and get some runs going. It would also set an example for LN2, because I see a glitchless run being very different from any% and it could get some attention.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Jozoneias, ChrisWick and 2 others like this
Hamburg, Germany

I understand not allowing sausage skip, but then why allow monkey jump? Its also breaking the physics is it not? As for Pulley: Does it really negate fall damage? I fell like six just naturally survives these falls? (At least for safe Pulley since there are similar heights she falls from) Otherwise I'd agree with your rules.

United States

You could be right about Monkey Jump, I'll group that together with Sausage Skip and hopefully get more input on it. I attempted Safe Pulley Skip without touching the wall and Six dies from the landing, it's a much longer fall than it looks.

Colombia

I just did a 1:07 and some seconds xD How can I send it so you can open the Skipless/Glitchless category?

Hamburg, Germany

It'd need to be sent to the admin (AlyssaMintChip). Then we would have to discuss the rules for the category so that it is clear what is allowed and what not.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Hamburg, Germany

If you would be okay with it I'd like you to send it to me to because I'm interested in how the run looks. You can contact me via discord ;)

Hamburg, Germany

Everyone who is interested in a glitchless category: please head over to the Discord. There is a channel there where the rules for a potential glichless category can be discussed.