It has been suggested to me that we should create a separate category for ultra fast cars such as the tournament bulldog as they are insanely fast compared to the traditional A class cars. I haven't got much of an opinion on this (i found the bulldog impossible to drive when I tried it yesterday) but with the likelihood that more cars get engines like this it is worth discussing if we want to split the class. I leave this thread here for people to voice their opinions.
How I see it:
Pros of splitting the category
- A class remains competitive and not just who can drive the bulldog the best (until a second tournament car comes along).
- New category to get more WRs in.
- Variety of cars in the original A class.
Cons of splitting
- Goes against how the game displays cars: could be confusing for new players given the bulldog is still officially an A class car.
- Extra work for the moderation team.
- At present the category would only have one car.
- If this change is made, then it would mean we should probably also change how D class works?
What is the scientific definition of an ultra fast car? Who ever suggested it to you should explain what the definition of an "ultra fast car"is. It is also very important to explain the difference between an A-Class car and and an ultra fast A-Class car. If it's just fast because of a new update we should add a version filter. If they nerf the bulldog in the future we will have a dead category. No, from me with the current explanation.
Basically cars such as the current bulldog who have a current PI of 706, whilst the rest cap out not far above 300.
edit: In the comment it was noted that the next highest is 365.
just to give some more added context to this. the classes of the game have gone like this.
A Class 365-235 B Class 234-165 C Class 164-100 D Class under 100
now with the bulldog Tournament Reward. Which gives you a 611 Class A Bulldog with the Engine and 709 Class A Bulldog when adding the tires has basically broken that system of the game's classes being above 365. now there's an idea that it's somewhat balanced with it being very jerky and almost undrivable however as you've all seen 1 lap times are very possible and very common on some tracks thanks to it being double what all class A cars are. I think we should be having this discussion due to the fact that imo it's broken the game's class system and if there's another one coming why not have a special category calling it like the S Class for SuperClass. Plus it's knocked off times by 4 or 5 seconds due to it's added engine upgrade being beyond anything that the game should have due to the structure of how the classes should be set up but instead, the devs made a joke reward that's now made speedruns on some tracks of class A cars unbalanced. My final point is The Bulldog Tournament Reward Car's top speed is so great that you don't even have to put the gear ratio on long for it to be 10.0 speed. It can go to the right of standard where every other car in the game to reach 10.0 speed has to be on long.
I think the best course of action is to follow what the devs do, if they make an S class (for example) then we add that, else we stick to the current ABCD as per the game.
"Which gives you a 611 Class A Bulldog with the Engine and 709 Class A Bulldog when adding the tires"
under my understanding of the PP (or PI as I called it earlier) system, the rating its only affected by power and weight. How did tires add 98 PP to the car?
not sure exactly but when i equipped the engine for the first that's what the PP was it changed when I picked the tires after wondering why mine wasn't going to 709. Maybe it was just glitched for that day. that 611 number doesn't really matter anyway as nobody's times are going to be with a Class A Bulldog under 709.
Ok having booted up Wreckfest, I can't see a way in which tires affect PP, at least on the Bulldog.
when you equip the big rear tires your gearing gets longer. you can see it when you put them on when you got the c class engine equiped its the same as the special tires you get for the muddigger and warwagon when you play the campaign
If you want to exclude the Bulldog from the A-Class i am fine with it but in my opinion the Bulldog is a very situational car who only shows his strenght on long, straight roads. It‘s the same as the Raiden RS who dominates mostly all short, dirty roads on the ingame leaderboards.
