ItalyI am fine with the idea of a double category. I would generally be concerned about having two categories for "almost" the same run, but I understand that just prohibiting one way of going through the stages or the other would not be completely satisfying. Hopefully both runs will get the love they deserve and many runners (myself included, if I ever find the time for longer runs).
@RapixOnGaming 's point about the rule being flexible and mods discussing about the single case on their own makes sense. The problem is that everybody was okay with approving the specific run except for @If_And_While, and While didn't really ask anybody: he rejected the run on his own.
To be honest, I think it's a mistake that you leave the mod team for such a reason. As far as I can tell you've been a good mod, just like the others, and you should keep doing it. We've been through this in the past and I've always met the news of a mod leaving the team with grief.
I totally agree on removing the lobby time. Also, looking forward to the autosplitter :)
I would personally make it even more memey and require the player to pick up the elevator code file just to avoid the RNG.
@RapixOnGaming yes, that's all I was proposing. Of course PS1 and PS3 categories are impractical and an overkill.
You know, it's fine. I'm caring too much about a nuance, and there's no real reason for it. Nobody in the community gives a damn about these secondary consoles and I shouldn't either. New runners will come, ask about the same two questions, get the same two answers and that's it. It's not my problem and I'm sick of hitting a rubber wall and be the silly dude every time I try to propose something. The conversation is not really worth my time, as it's not worth anybody else's time.
My proposal is mentioned in the other thread: stating very clearly, for each category including multiple platforms, which ones are faster, in order to prevent new runners from wasting time grinding on the less competitive platforms if they can play on the more competitive. I'm perfectly aware of the 1000 categories problem, but this kind of thread keeps being opened because nobody outside of the ancient ones in the community knows about the differences between consoles.The same happened with the speed glitch on PC, when new comers would constantly complain about the game running at inconsistent speed while we all knew the reason and had to explain it over and over again.
@Rei_Leo, I don't think you should delete your run. Every run matters and is a contribution to the community and the history of the game. This said, the issue with PS3 (digital disc) and PSP being on the same category has already been discussed multiple times. On every other platform the IGT has proved to be heavily affected by loading times between camera angles and during the fade-in/out of the door transitions, which leaves me personally doubtless about PSP being faster than anything else except, obviously, for PC. As I stated before, I think nothing is competitive against PSP, and I've already talked about the frustration that would come from running on PS3, but the question has not been solved yet. You can find an open thread on the subject right here: https://www.speedrun.com/dino2/thread/ub56m
Edit: the same would apply to PS3 with physical disc, which falls under PS category even though PS1 games notoriously suck on PS3 and despite fast disc on PS2 making it the dominant version and killing the competition of PS3 (and PS1. Let us not forget PS1).
@If_And_While I would put some advices about what is faster and what as is slower anyways, so that new runners know exactly what they can do to perform best in a specific category instead of wasting a month of their lives on PS3 and then wandering why those pesky PSP times are twenty minutes lower. I would also write down the info about fast disc being essential or the need to update your PSP to get the fastest loading times (as @xtra2Ez found out) for the same reason.
