There really aren't any allegations as i'm not denying using a Ps2. I may have not said it as bluntly as needed but I assumed I explained that here.

"Anytime I run a Ps1 game using a Ps2 I always note in the description "Played on Ps2 with fast disc speed enabled", I didn't note it here because I was not using fast disc speed ¤¤and if there was a selection for Ps2 under the platform when you submit I would have used it¤¤."

As for showing the boot screen I obviously cant show a Ps1 boot but I would say check out that 4 hour stream from 1:03:20 to at least 1:04:05. And I'm sure Iv'e reset the console several more times but I don't want to watch 4 hours of my own stuff :) .

Now, for knowing if someone uses fast disc speed it's very simple. Listen to my and your audio at the character select screen. Hear quite a difference? Listen to when it says Round (whatever fight) and Liu Kang (or whomever) wins. Hear how sped up it is between mine and yours?

I am not going to give an opinion on whether or not fast disc speed should be acceptable in Mk4 as that was never an argument of mine. I just didn't like it because of what it did to the audio, it felt like it broke the game a bit to me. I'm sure it's my childhood nostalgia for it that disappears when the audio is corrupted but it personally, to me, didn't feel right. As for Mkt, yes it crashes at certain points but it felt like the same game. Honestly I feel like it should all be played on original hardware but speedrun.com is not as stringent as twin galaxies and that may be for the best as more can be included.

lot of feels in that paragraph but I'm going to keep it as is.

G3

I Haven't checked this thread since my initial post but since there are some replies I suppose I'll reply myself.

"we were using a psone until you came in and started using a ps2 and trying to hide it. we discovered that you were using a ps2 so I then decided to use a ps2 also. you started this, not us. all of my runs show the bootup screen for the psone, showing that it was being used. however, you did not show your bootup screen. although you did show your bootup screen for your MK trilogy runs on the psone. your MK4 runs were cut but from a 4 hour video which did not include bootup either. we have solid evidence that you were using a ps2 for your MK4 runs and a ps2 naturally plays the games faster than a psone even when they are set to normal disk speeds."

If I was trying to hide it I would not have kept a 4 hour highlight ("solid proof") of the entire stream. Anytime I run a Ps1 game using a Ps2 I always note in the description "Played on Ps2 with fast disc speed enabled", I didn't note it here because I was not using fast disc speed and if there was a selection for Ps2 under the platform when you submit I would have used it. If Ps2 plays the game faster without fast disc speed enabled then that's something I was unaware of but since it's essentially emulation I Imagine you're correct.

"Play MK-Trilogy on the PS2 should be generally banned. Because the game do not really work on the PS2 or PS3 system. The game crash very often, the game crash all the time on the ending, the enemy cpu do not work correctly."

MK Trilogy definitley crashes on Ps2 every time when you get to the Trophy Selection(?) Screen but I never had the game crash anywhere else. I don't know about the enemy AI since even if played on a Ps1 Goro would still destroy everyone in the same way.

"if you all want to go back to psone then we will all go back to psone. but that means all of gameglitchguys runs will be rejected and stripped from the leaderboard and 2 of my runs will be replaced with the older runs done on the psone. plain and simple. but as far as im concerned, the more players on the leaderboard, the better. so keeping gameglitchguy on the leaderboard is what we want. so in that respect you could say that the leaderboard is more about collecting players and less about collecting fans."

I'd personally be ok with Mk4 and even Mkt being ps1 (original harware) only but that may turn away anyone new who may want to get on the board. If neither Mk4 or Mkt play properly on Ps2 which, I'll admit they really don't, it would make some sense. Even if I lost both the Mk4 and Mkt runs I'd be fine with it as I love both of those games and would run them again. Honestly I don't really care either way but it would make sure everyone is on the same level since Ps1 games are weird in that you can play them faster with a simple Ps2 (fds) setting or Emu.

Last things to note is I did not start this thread to create a shitstorm or imply that Brendon did anything wrong by using fast disc speed as it was never banned and is fair game. I'm not looking to create enemies or breed hostility, my first post was just explaining why I didn't personally like fast disc speed in Mk4 since it corrupts the audio. We are all here to play games and have fun and if we can play against others who are also good at the games we love then it makes it all the better.

EDIT: I forgot that Mkt also crashes on the Game Over screen but I never had it crash during a match or anywhere other than the Trophy selection (I think it's called Shao Kahns treasure or something, I have no idea lol) and the Game Over.

I saw Cybernoid on the schedule for the BoNes marathon and it reminded me of a glitch I found over a year ago. I haven't seen this glitch in any TAS or speedrun so I assume it's still unknown. Figured I'd post it here in case TMR wants to improve his run or if anyone wants to pick this game up in the future.

The way the glitch works is you need to pause at the exact time that the screen transitions and then continue to press start rapidly. If done perfectly you could theoretically skip the entire game after the first level. Iv'e also found some other glitches but nothing as helpful as this.

cheers

G3

If you, the reader, come away from this post with the conclusion that, "this guy's just salty" that is fine as you can read it however you want. I just wanted to post about my feelings concerning fast disc speed in MK4 and why I will not compete to reclaim the 1st place time(s).

Firstly, I have no issues against fast disc speed overall as quicker loading times are great and it is the fastest way to play Ps1 games. Mk4 was the first game where even though I knew it would be faster I was personally not ok with enabling it for the simple fact that it corrupts all of the audio in the game. When you run a game for several hours at a time listening to audio glitching isn't very fun, not to mention it made the game harder to watch for twitch viewers. The runs at the time didn't use it either so I figured they felt the same way. It was one of the few times where I found that fast disc speed broke the game so I sacrificed speed for play ability and watch ability.

I enjoy, in a weird way, when someone beats one of my times as it gives me a great excuse to go back and play the game again. If my run was beaten normally, I would compete to reclaim it because I love friendly competition as it can help grow and strengthen a community. However, if the only way to compete is to switch a hardware setting and play the game in a broken state than I feel the same way as I did when I started running MK4, that to me the tradeoff isn't worth it.

Good luck to any future MK4 runners,

G3

Proposing a new category that is a race to 100 points. I think it makes the game more fun and puts a lil more speed into the speedrun.

Basic idea came from here http://www.speedrun.com/Magic_Johnsons_Fast_Break#100_Points

Example Arch Rivals 100 point run

Ok, thanks for such a concise reply nickj109 it's much appreciated.

How much time is lost from not doing fast 4-2 and bullet bill glitch?

Whats the lowest time that can be gotten without those two glitches if played flawlessly?

Funny enough i actually recorded a good/best ending run years ago as well (again in the record the tv screen with a camera days). The best ending, like the bad ending, I find interesting because the way you play the game changes beyond any% with each.

As for "3 mode" wouldn't a single segment run of all difficulties essentially be the same any% run but done three times since the only thing that changes with difficulty select is the amount of damage taken?

"3 mode" has given me an interesting idea for a run though. So the game has three difficulties...and the game has three endings...What if you did a single segment where you played each difficulty but also got a different ending each time? So easy would be bad ending, since you have to take a lot of damage to do it quickly; normal would be the best ending, and difficult would be the regular any% run. I suppose you could do any ending in whatever order you would want but that would be the easiest. Not proposing it as a category, its just a thought that popped into my mind with Barnowls mention of "3 mode".

Wondering if Bad Ending% could possibly be added as a misc category. I originally ran the bad ending 2 years ago on my youtube channel (back when i recorded a tv screen, yay) but recently improved the time on twitch. I imagine the category might not be popular enough considering the ending in itself is relatively unknown, but i figured id ask anyway.

An example run can be seen here

I have already contacted one mod who switched one run to my account but if it is also possible to list the runs here it may be easier. The other two runs I have that are linked to a non user account are, Beavis and Butthead on Snes, and Hudson Hawk on nes. If necessary I can also contact the mods on those runs as it isn't too big of an issue for me to do so.. My username on those runs is the same name I signed up as, GameGlitchGuy. Thank you.

Hello, I recently signed up but i have a few runs that were added to the site by others before i became a user and im wondering how to get those runs associated with my account. Thanks for any help or info you can relay.