United StatesWhoa! Good job, man! We should talk sometime - the community discord is open to chat, and welcome to top 5!
Yo! Good moves, man! I'm hyped to see you get closer and closer, I guess we both got our sights pretty high! You're definitely top 3 material!
Yo! That's amazing! I'm hyped to see how far you go with this - seems like my race with another runner to be first has a third contender, haha!
Continued - I sent it early. Oops. But, the more I'm looking at bro_nids problem the more I see a different issue cropping up - the PC. Maybe it's his specific computer that caused it?
The spot, more specifically where we talk to the guard while we shoot at the cockatrice to prevent the timer from continuing - saves us like 4 or 5 seconds if I remember. Also, of course external tools would be a major difference, I suppose you're right about save game glitches being problematic to be honest. Hm. You're right, save editing would be too much of a branch off from the miniscule way we glitch the game. We'll figure out something else to make the ox more consistent
First thing: the speedrun already uses glitches. As a moderator, I'm gonna say that we already use at least 2 major glitches in the NG+ Run: Timer stalling and Duke Skip both are technically glitches. So, Infinite Oxcart would also be a major glitch and allowed in the run. Also, the events only started right after he copied the save data - he believes he did the process wrong and it seems to have bugged his game out beyond belief. More details are in the discord server
Fifth place speedrunner Bro_Nid had copied a save file which led to seemingly irreversible problems within their game. The Hydra fight seemed to have lost a flag that allows it to die in the first phase, the only fix being a usage of the Maker's Finger arrow which causes major time problems later on. Currently, it seems that copying save data can lead to permanent code corruption of some kind, as they had tried every fix imaginable and nothing had repaired this issue. If you're going to copy save data, you have to be extremely careful or don't do it at all - however, this also raises some questions about how useful it might be to do so if we figure out how to manipulate it to, say, stop the oxcart from ending its sprint.
Due to one of the players posting a thread asking about a Discord, i realized it would be a lot easier if we had one! So, I made one! Here's the link: https://discord.gg/ud6mNgsP5A Read the rules! Note that it is gonna be pretty empty at first, and likely will for a while but we shouldn't give up on it instantly! It's a nice place to have discussions! Easier than the forums too.
I think the biggest way to make BBI faster is removing the key obtaining Also, assassin could be good. Only way to know is test it
@glasnonck just to make sure you see this with the Seneschal - combining this and Dragon Door, this literally makes a run that has zero, count it zero RNG past the oxcart, which I'm working on, it will happen very soon. Considering finding an oxcart infinite sprint glitch somehow, but if that doesnt work, KanGenSai's find with the Jewel seems very very very good
I'll check out the video right away! And @glasnonck you're gonna wanna check out some of the other things that were found. I'm still considering making the sum of best segments run, a community spliced run where all the best runs submitted get put together so we can see a rough fastest possible time
It is okay to post the URL! If it helps the speedrun, it'll even go into resources!
Wait, the Jewel of Vicissitude keeps the cow from losing health for a full minute? That's amazing! We use Ne'er do part every 2 kicks to effectively keep his sprint at max, but that could help in another way, i.e. with keeping the ox like that, there's no real need to stop for anything. Maybe it can be used to glitch the ox into an infinite sprint somehow?
Seneschal Insurance - Blast arrows, periapts, Cursed King's Belt and Barbed Nails. If you stagger him, he instantly charges his super-powerful attack.
Notes: Finishing Maximilian too fast is inefficient. Reccomend waiting about 45 to 50 seconds in Maximilian's dialogue once you get Come To Court, or Aldous spawns on the top balcony, wasting in-game time.
New Duke Skip needs to be done quickly, or it fails. It is consistent but precise, with very little room for error.
Sleep to night when you first enter the encampment, mercedes spawns right outside of the door to the training area.
Enter the rift and dismiss rook - your timer dosen't move.
Throw your pawn off the everfall - it makes for a more consistent Dragon Door. On my channel there is a video for an almost perfectly optimized dragon door.
Whenever you need to guard skip - teleport to the portcrystal that takes you to Inkeep faster in the Griffin/sleep quests. Except for after the sleep quest of course. Guards always spawn right inside the door, saving a few seconds of waiting.
There is a difficult skip with the Duke, check out KanGenSai's Any% Record to see it.
This earned me the third place spot in the world with no refinement and only one reset. Third place video now out.
Idea: what if we, as a community, edited together a theoretically perfect New Game Plus speedrun utilizing every known refinement and retiming it ourselves to see just how fast a speedrun can really be? I'm talking, like, glasnonck's intro movement, a staggerless oxcart, landing directly on the flameservant's throne, a no-mistake watergods altar, etc etc etc up to the brand new Duke skip, my Dragon Door perfect refinement, and Glas' Instant Seneschal Grapple. I think, if we were to splice at cutscenes, we could be able to make and time a seamless run of all the best segments in our speedruns and create a theoretically perfect run to see just how efficient this game could get with perfect RNG and perfect movement
My idea for getting 2 keys is starting a hardmode run, grabbing the key, leaving hardmode, and starting another hardmode run and grabbing the second key. From there, you have 2 void keys off the bat with any speedrun. Other than that, the sheer power of the ranger likely does outmatch the speed of the assassin. Only a ranger could destroy the gazer that fast, for example.
