Hey all,

Just wanted to get some input from everyone regarding the DLC released on Friday.

As most of you know, there's an infinite ammo accessory that you can earn by using less than 60 handgun bullets in No Way Out scenario.

Obviously, this accessory greatly differs speedrun routing for the various Ghost Survivors categories.

A couple of different ideas have been tossed out there on how to handle this:

• Infinite ammo is separated into a sub-category (messy, obviously)
• Infinite ammo is a variable/filter on the boards (possibly hidden by default, depending on popularity)
• Ban it

I would like to get some feedback on this. If anyone has any suggestions, please share them. We would like to ideally get the boards for Ghost Survivors created/opened officially sooner rather than later.

Thanks!

I vote for sub category

I'd probably say to just outright ban it.

Ban it. Treat the DLC like NG runs.

Thanks for the feedback guys. I am more leaning towards banning it as well, in my personal opinion (which I think weighs in no more than anyone else).

I would like to get a little more feedback on this, so please post your thoughts if you haven't already.

I would also say ban it. If we are banning using infinite ammo in the main categories, why would the DLC get exception?

@theLEVIATHAN06 the main game has NG+ though - which is a reason we're asking for input on how the community wants it sorted :)

yeah that's why I don't understand why everyone wants to ban it. There's a category for infinite ammo in the main game (NG+). This is basically NG+ for the DLC.

Considering the DLC is rather short, how much time would infinite ammo realistically save overall after optimization of both runs? I'd say this should be taken into consideration. Would it simply allow more fruitless use of ammo? I haven't really been following the DLC but the speedruns seem to be only 3-5 minutes usually outside of No Way Out.

Campaign is long enough it saves minutes due to removing a lot of unnecessary diversions and making boss fights / confrontations much faster due to the Rocket Launcher.

I see no reason to ban it, its an option in the game that everyone has access to. It might not save a lot of time, but 10 seconds is a lot heavier in a 5 minute category than a 1 hour category. If no one ends up wanting to play it, thats fine but i think banning it is just silly. (I also think training mode should be considered for having a spot on the board, but less so than this).

My vote for sub category.

I'd say ban it personally the time save is minimal

@CursedToast. Agreed, I guess splitting it into NG and NG+ is a viable option. Also, to add to what @Liv said, it would be a small amount of time save considering the shortness of DLC's.

My objective opinion is sub category cause it's ingame option My personal PoV is ban it cause it's a short run and i prefer when skill is required

In all cases, totally against filter stuff

Ban it for this board, add NG+ to category extensions if enough people actually want to run it.

I actually like that idea a lot @LadOkapi Keeps the boards clean, and if there's actually enough demand for infinite ammo, we can toss it on extensions without making the main boards a mess over a few seconds (likely) saved.

thats actually pretty reasonable, I dig it

Well I said ban because I really can't see how it would save any time at all. You still start with the same weapons, the only time save would be not going to the machines for items, so it seems kinda superfluous. But having it as its own thing wouldn't bother me.

yeah I like the category extensions idea. I'm down with that.

Training I wouldnt even make an option personally..Keep this board NG then add the NG+ stuff at CE. The modes are short enough where the NG+ ears wont make that much of a difference compared to NG+ with the Rocket

Why do new runners always look for the easy way out rather than actually grinding for their times FeelsBadMan