Forums  /  Kingdom Hearts  /  Proposal: Require Leaderboard Mods to no longer automatically verify their runs
  JHobzJHobz

This is an idea I've been floating around for awhile and have mentioned to some of you. I think we should disallow leaderboard mods from automatically verifying their runs when they submit. This way, everyone adheres to the exact same rules; other mods would have to verify the runs. To do this as a mod, simply uncheck the "automatically verify run" checkbox when submitting.

Thoughts?

 
  FayeLilacFayeLilac

I already never do this, so I'm in favor.

 
  GrigGrig

also agree with this, for what that's worth.

 
  Sonicshadowsilver2Sonicshadowsilver2

I agree to this as well considering I have been unchecking the auto-verify button myself for my runs recently.

 
  YaBoyBTrueYaBoyBTrue

I haven't been in favor of this since Sonic first told me about it

 
  JHobzJHobz

@Toji: As stated in the OP, in order to make everyone play by the same rules.

@BTrue: Can you elaborate on why you're not in favor of it?

 
  TojimaruTojimaru

@JHobz That's really not saying much. Can you elaborate why?

 
  JHobzJHobz

There's no real prompting reason why -- there wasn't an incident or anything -- I just think everyone should play by the same rules. If leaderboard mods can always auto-verify their runs then, theoretically (AND I'M NOT SAYING I THINK ANYONE WOULD DO THIS), one could cheat and submit invalid runs. Or runs without video. It also helps to catch mistakes people might have missed in their original run, like maybe accidentally starting/stopping the timer early/late. Or misclicking and submitting the wrong time, date, etc.

Enacting this rule would mean every single run that is submitted always has at least two eyes on it: the submitter and the verifier.

 
  YaBoyBTrueYaBoyBTrue

My big thing with it is a mod is given mod for a reason and if you don't trust a mod not to cheat then they shouldn't be mod in the first place. I can see where you're all coming from, but I don't agree. Ultimately it looks like and I feel like this will be changed and I'll be in the minority, but such is life.

 
  DrazerkDrazerk

Just as an example for Hobz to use. I recently screwed up adding a NG+ Re:Coded run at one point as I forgot to check the Emulator box when I submitted it. If it wasn't for Saiyanz noticing I doubt it would have actually been changed at all. We all make mistakes and 2 eyes are better than 1 in these circumstances.

 
  TojimaruTojimaru

@JHobz Thanks for clarifying. Initially my first thought was "why wouldn't we trust mods to not cheat", but I hadn't considered the possibility of simple mistakes that mods could make. Having another set of eyes on something seems like a good idea.

 
  JHobzJHobz

@Btrue: Yeah, again, it's more about just getting two pairs of eyes on everything. Like I said, I don't expect anyone to try to auto-verify their run to cheat, it's more about catching simple, easy-to-make, mistakes.

 
  YaBoyBTrueYaBoyBTrue

I can see the mistakes part. I'm still on the fence about it in general.

 
  JHobzJHobz

Well it's been about 2 weeks and the majority seem to agree, so I guess it's official. Mods be sure to uncheck "Automatically verify run" whenever you submit.