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  xexe

https://www.speedrun.com/jtoh/run/m3530x4y
States: "Rule 2"
"Glitches are allowed, excluding gear clipping since not everyone has the items necessary to do it."
I didn't use an item clip, but there were items in my inventory. Many other runs use that clip, including my former world record on that category, and the current world record.
This is likely a huge misunderstanding.
But if you say: "But there's items in your inventory", my other runs with items in my inventory were verified.
IVTROY, could you please explain this?

 
  IVTROYIVTROY

any tower -> view rules -> game rules -> find "2." and read the rule

 
  xexe

xx0 format?
what's that?

 
  xexe
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wait nvm, I fixed it
but shouldn't that be a responsibility as a moderator to fix those minor mistakes?
There's an option to accept, edit and reject run for a reason.

 
  xexe

I've now resubmitted my run under what I think you mean when you say xx0.

 
  shinryan12shinryan12

yea so basically the millisecond portion of the timer actually goes by XX.xx0. for example, if I speedran Tower of Madness and I get 3:08.45, then that means I spent 3 minutes, 8 seconds, and 450 milliseconds. The 1st number of the digit is what makes the hundredths place. It does NOT mean 45 milliseconds, since the third digit is missing.

HOWEVER, IVTROY, as a SUPER moderator, can change the run's time to its correct time. He probably rejected the run as a mistake, probably thinking that the runner has to submit the run again. Not shaming on him, just a lesson to be learned

 
  ZaikoticZaikotic

i've had a run rejected for rule 2 + 5 too, so just make sure you set ingame time correctly

 
  TheBronzeSwordTheBronzeSword

@shinryan12shinryan12

IVTROY rejects them on purpose for that sole reason.

 
  zkxxyzkxxy

I just got mine for same reason, coiling ToS was denied to: Rule 2

 
  xexe

This kind of stuff actually didn't happen when Mega was a mod.
Mega fixed the times.

 
  IVTROYIVTROY

i was also fixing these mistakes before, but when people submit ~10 runs every day, its easier to tell them to fix these mistakes so they won't make me to waste my time over and over again.

 
  xexe
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I'm 100% sure that changing the time from RTA to IGT will take less than a minute, same for changing it from xxx to xx0.
For changing it from xxx to xx0 all you have to do is add a 0 onto the end lmao
to change form rta to igt all you gotta do is just copy the times
I'll be up for the job of verifying if it means everybody's runs are verified faster and less hassle with minor mistakes like that.

 
  IVTROYIVTROY

lets count. somehow i have 20 new runs in 1 day so i have 50. 24 of them have mistakes. it will take me 15 minutes to fix all the mistakes. people who made mistakes wont even notice them => they will make them again => i will waste even more time fixing your mistakes. i'd better spend this time reviewing runs of the people who can accept their mistakes and fix them. I don't want to say this over and over again so i will most likely just ignore questions like this one.

 
  xexe
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Well, when you put it like that, it sounds quite bad. But, if you have 50 runs, they're bound to be from people to run often. And, half of the people won't make mistakes, which is a bit too low. About 1/10 runs have a mistake in them, on average, by my estimate.
And, if that's the case, by denying the run, you're making yourself go through more trouble, leave a mod's note for them, to say that they should do something that they accidentally didn't.
As it's a mod's note, the message will get across.
Here, I have come copy paste mod's notes for you:
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Next time, add a 0 on to the end of the milliseconds (ms).
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Next time, put the time into the In-Game time slot.
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Next time, try putting the time into the In-Game time slot, and adding a 0 onto the end of the milliseconds (ms) time.
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You could also ask for mod applications, since that will allow the amount of time to verify the amount of runs you receive to drop.
Being a 1-mod team is inefficient.

 
  xexe

Okay, so 5/10 runs have a mistake in them.
so, 15 minutes of your time is spent editing mistakes, here's a list of things that take longer than that:
-Beating a tower blind
-Doing homework
-A school lesson
-Making food
-Writing an essay
-Some of the speedruns on this site
-Getting a good speedrun to submit

 
  xexe

Here's a specific list of all the world records that take longer than 15 minutes:
CoLS Glitchless
CoLS Glitches
ToDD Glitchless
ToGaH Glitchless
ToN Glitchless
ToTT Glitchless
ToEE Glitches
ToES Glitchless
ToC Glitchless
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Here's the world records longer than 10 minutes (Excluding the ones above)
ToK Coils
ToWER Glitchless
ToWER Glitches
ToRS Glitchless
ToDM Glitchless
CoCR Glitches
ToAB Glitchless
ToAB Glitches
ToP Glitchless
ToCO Glitches
ToAZ Glitchless
ToDT Event Items
ToCCC Glitchless
ToDH Glitchless
ToCaS Glitches
ToMC Glitchless
ToHH Event Items

 
  IVTROYIVTROY

dude i can review more than one run

 
  xexe

I'm aware of that, I'm saying, that if editing 25 mistakes from runs takes 15 minutes, those runs take about the same, or longer than that time.

 
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