Freescroll Mouse tech & Mouse purchase (thx for advice)
7 years ago
Germany

Hey there,

I want to get a new mouse also because I feel my current mouse's scrollwheel hinders me to get better results in bhop speed. My current mouse is the Speedlink SL-6397- BK Decus Mouse:

http://www.speedlink.com/?p=2&cat=221&pid=31230&paus=1&act_lang=en&PHPSESSID=5f69c610aed8277285c6f15bc0a89a6e&PHPSESSID=5f69c610aed8277285c6f15bc0a89a6e

Though I realised, it kind of is okay in size, the scrollwheel is a little slow, though smooth and soft to control (no unnecessary scrolling-fatigue).

I've had a look at the Steelseries Rival 300:

https://steelseries.com/gaming-mice/rival-300

Though big enough and very handy to hold and control, the scrollwheel seems kinda hard to scroll which currently makes me prefer the following one:

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-mamba-tournament-edition

The mouse design is very handy, feels good to hold and control; the mouse is very sensitive and the scrollwheel is effortlessly smooth to scroll.

So in comparison to that, the G502 by Logitech:

http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g502-proteus-spectrum-rgb-gaming-mouse

does have a freescrolling which might be very useful e.g. in climbing ramps with freescrolling jump, or getting higher scroll counts to get smoother bhops without losing too much speed. The scrollwheel then again seems to be a little harder to control once you've scrolled it in normal mode, and very difficult to control in scroll counts in freescrolling.

-> Does someone have experiences with that?

Additionally, the mouse is too small for my hand. More fitting, but way to expensive would be the g900:

http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g900-chaos-spectrum-mouse

What is the best mouse choice for playing Half-Life in your opinion? What suggestions do you have for me for purchasing a new mouse?

Thx!

Greetings qd

Russia

isnt freescroll mices bananad by the rules?

Derbyshire, England

"Runs done in this category must not use the 'wait' command or any scripts, aliases, macros, turbo buttons, hyper-scrolling and so on.. "

Germany

Alright. How about you add (free-scrolling) behind hyper-scrolling, i didn't know it was that tbh.

But alright, that solves that problem.

What about the other mice? Any ideas?

Greetings

Friesland, Netherlands

I personally really like the Zowie FK1. The scrolling wheel takes some getting used to but feels really good. In all honesty, I think you shouldn't ONLY be looking for a mouse with the ''best'' scroll wheel. Mainly because most modern day gaming mice all have a decent/good scroll wheel, what makes people say that a certain mouse has the best scroll wheel is mostly based on subjective factors.

You'd also want to look for a mouse which has a flawless sensor, which is just as important as having a mouse with a decent scroll wheel. Check the link below if you want to check if the mice you'd like are on there. To my knowledge, both the Zowie FK series, as well as the EC series and the Steelseries Rival are on there. (http://on-winning.com/flawless-sensor-mouse-list-perfect/)

Good luck!

Edited by the author 7 years ago
qckdth likes this
Argentina

wouldnt like to burst a bubble, BUT scrolling wise i used to have the 5$ genius mice and before that a logitech ball mice and didnt changed anything in that regard

Sweden

Afaik most top 10 runners uses Zowie so that must mean Zowie confirmed best hl1 mouse???? Kappa

I personally use a Zowie ZA-11 and when i started i used a Zowie FK1.

Germany

Thx for your replies people!

I thought about what mboheio said. Maybe I should just stick with my current mouse, because it is actually "ok". On the other hand I tried to find a store that has zowie mice so i can compare them and get a feel of them, but i couldn't find one.

Now I'm thinking about it again and: why not have a better mouse actually.

Does someone know about the different sizes of zowie mice?

Greetings qd

Sweden

The only two zowie mices i tried:

ZA-11 for palm grip FK1 for claw grip

Both for left/right handed.

They are very tiny the ZA-11 reminds me the most of my old SS Rival.

Germany

I now finally decided on the DeathAdder Elite by razer:

http://www.razerzone.com/de-de/gaming-mice/razer-deathadder-elite

It seems to have the accuracy of the DeathAdder Chroma, the sensor of the Mamba, but without the Tracking and Skipping issues. Razer says the sensor is very well tuned considering accuracy and tracking. The size is very good for me (I tested it in a store), and the Mwheel has rubber nobbs like the Razer Mamba. I'll feedback a little on how I liked it if you want.

Thx for all the advice people! Greetings qd

Germany

Hello :)

So I've had the chance to test the Razer Deathadder Elite for Half-Life Speedrunning. The Razer Deathadder Chroma was highly recommended by some sources specifically for its very good and accurate sensor. And as I can confirm, the Elite's sensor is really really good and very precise. The mousewheel seemed to be a little bit difficult to handle to me in the beginning. But as for Bhopping in general, you just have to get used to it pretty much it seems. The nobbing on the wheel for additional feedback is also very nice.

So atm I can recommend this one I think. Will see how long its gonna last though (a critic I've heard from several Razer products users).

Greetings qd

losi likes this
United States

Freescrolling is not the same as hyperscrolling. "Hyperscrolling is an huge spam of any key on the mouse or keyboard, by a third-party program". I would also like to say that infinitely scrolling with a free scroll does not send an input for the next jump after the first. This happens to me when I use my g502. Free scroll mice are just really loose with scroll wheels which is nice and easy to use. Never use the actual free scroll button, just use it the normal way. Now if Free scroll mice are banned then I am at a loss as well as confused because free scrolling yields no results for me considering I only jump once and any jumps after are disabled.