Ummm, I'm pretty sure this game is not timed by in-game time... It is timed by real time, therefore just with screenshots, that would not count.
But, I agree a 100% category should be added because why not :P
I thought it was that the time for 100% started when you selected your file to start on and breaks were included in your time? I just found this old post by Niklass:
- You can do breaks (sleeping etc.) but your time/timer will keep running during this time
- In case your PC/Game crashes just continue at your last save and collect everything you did before the crash and the run will obviously not be lost. Just make sure to have everything at the end
- Currently, LCU is being timed in RTA, meaning real time gets used & not ingame-time. For keeping track of your time, use LiveSplit to time it. Make sure to learn how to use it well!
I thought these were the rules? Yes I am aware he's not a mod just these made the most sense.
The rules for 100% in LCU:
Timing starts after hitting "OK" on the autosave screen. Timing ends when you collect/purchase the last object for 100%. Cutscenes may be skipped.
I don't know if LCU has a timer or not, and it would depend on what the potential lower limit of 100% for TCB is. If 100% can be done in a reasonable time then RTA is viable. If it's not so doable then I think IGT should be considered. The thing is making the choice so we know what we're going to do.
LCU has an in-game timer, just it isn't completely accurate. It would probably take around 20 hours on LCU, I haven't played the DS version so idk. Just, RTA is more accurate and never fails xD Some games take much longer like animal crossing(50+ hours) so it's definitely doable. If you end up doing IGT then don't use the IGT. Use LiveSplit or something and add up the sessions. I also wouldn't take screenshots as evidence as they could have been tampered with, a 20 hour video is less likely(for a game as little as LCU most people wouldn't take the time to TAS and then fake a 20 hour run).
Quadruplex I think igt is better because it is the time the game says you took it to complete also i guess beating the game would take about 10 hours and not everybody can play a game for so long so getting the possibility to stop inbetween would be great to make the game more accesable for many people
Actually, can someone run tests to see if IGT on the 3DS is accurate? For how long it would take look at this: http://www.speedrun.com/Baten_Kaitos_Eternal_Wings_and_the_Lost_Ocean#100
If someone can go nearly 400 hours we can go 10 :P
If your run gets verified, every other run from now on will be timed with IGT (which would not be good in my opinion) or some runs will be deleted or something if timing gets changed to RTA (the more reliable timing).
True, however on the Wii U sequel there are long loading times too and they are included in the RTA time.
I completely agree. This game is similar to the Wii U version though and it has the same mods.
Quadruplex, in terms of Baten Kaitos, the 100% is actually ~30hrs, plus an extended gameplay achievement required to hit 100%, for the majority of the run the stream is just running whilst the runner sleeps and works and does everything else they'd normally do.
Jakoflm if you would be willing to do some testing, I'd like to see if the IGT is reliable. If it is reliable, then we can continue from there. For now, I'm afraid your submission will be in "limbo" until we figure this out.
You really know your stuff :o The reason I brought up IGT not being reliable is because in a YT vid someone said it wasn't. I also looked at my IGT a while back and it didn't look reliable either. I'll be interested in the results.
The Igt is acctually pretty accurat but it doesnt count wile beeing in the pause menu I dont know if thats a bad or not cause you dont really do things in the pause menu I havent yet figured out if the loading times count or not but i think they do (Quadruplex sorry for my harsh tone yesterday)
It's fine, I was stubborn too. It's bad in my opinion as the pause menu and the loading times are part of the game.