Hello everyone It is possible in GTA V to taxi to a place despite having insufficient funds. You just get the cops on you when you arrive. In the 'All Letters' miscellaneous category, you only have a very limited amount of money to use so you can only taxi a few times. It would therefore be beneficial to do this.

Unfortunately, if you have the pre-order bonus money you will arrive without the cops (simply using some of the bonus money).

The ban on the pre-order bonus money is insufficient because:

1. You can not know how much money each taxi drive will require. A person with the pre-order bonus will be gambling each time whether they go under. A person without the pre-order bonus could just throw caution to the wind, gaining an advantage, as the worst thing that could happen is getting the cops.
2. A person without the pre-order bonus can just take a taxi at $0 and get the cops on them when they arrive due to lack of payment. A person with the pre-order bonus would be restricted in being able to take a taxi at 500k as they would go below 500k. The person without the pre-order bonus would have an advantage.

There needs to be a resolution to this problem. Banning taxis would seem the best approach.

I thought that DLC bonus money was banned already in GTA 5 runs. Why not just carry that over to this category.

I don't think we should blanket ban taxi's.

You normally would start collecting the letters after Repossession when they become available but Franklin has no money to use taxis for very long you're right. However if you go ahead and finish Complications right after Repossession you gain control of Michael and he has $7000 on him. You can then use taxi's. Finishing Complications only wastes between 3 to 4 minutes but you could easily make up that time using a taxi strat.

The DLC money is banned anyway so all you need to do is view the video and if they go below the threshold it's rejected.

While on the subject of taxi's, should they be banned in the stunt jumps category? I used them at the end of my run in that category however Dates did not. Should we make stunt jumps classic% rules?

Zachoholic I will add more information to the original post to make it clear.

The ban on the pre-order bonus money is insufficient because:

1. You can not know how much money each taxi drive will require so a person with the pre-order bonus will be gambling each time whether they go under 500k. A person without the pre-order bonus could just throw caution to the wind, gaining an advantage, as the worst thing that could happen is getting the cops.
2. A person without the pre-order bonus can take a taxi at $0 and get the cops on them when they arrive due to lack of payment. A person with the pre-order bonus could not take a taxi at 500k as they would go below 500k and invalidate their run. The person without the pre-order bonus thus has an advantage.

We can't simply allow the 500k bonus to balance it out because then non-preorder bonus runners will be suffering cops for taxi drives at 0 and preorder bonus runners would not for taxis under 500k.

I am at the point where classic% should be the standard for all misc categories.

Unhallowed, I think taxi's are fine in ASJ, they're somewhat required when spawning outside of medical facilities. It would be too RNG based without them, and they're only used a couple of times, maybe a rule could be added that taxi's in USJ can only be used to get a vehicle (steal it) and not allowed to use it to fast travel (since this follows the strat that Dates and I have used).

As for the letters category, I'm interested in running it and so I asked darkviper to bring up the issue of taxis so I can know how I'm going to be running it. I think the best solution is to perhaps limit the taxi use to only be used to get to a helicopter one time (as in use as many taxi's needed to get to your first helicopter). This solution would have the added benefit of keeping Unhallowed's run valid as the WR (unlesss there was an extra taxi I didn't see).

you could also just state that its not allowed to use the preorder bonus, and its also not allowed to use a cab when you don't have enough money for the cab. Both runners would have the same "gamble" if they're not sure if they have enough money as both of this would make the run invalid. Limiting it to only use one cab until you get a heli kinda limits the category to find new strats. If someone figures out how to make a few thousands as franklin within lets say 1-2minutes, that strat wouldn't be possible due to the restriction.

though my solution could theoratically limit it aswell, because maybe there's a strat where you wouldn't care about getting cops and take the cab anyway, either way we should find a solution.

Taking into account Reloe's thoughts, I think the best solution would be: Going below 500k with pre-order bonus or getting the cops on you from not paying should be against the rules for the category. I think this is a fair solution.

This still has the problem of your not knowing how much money you will spend on any taxi drive. You would be gambling each time on whether your run was invalidated as you say.

I got distracted and forgot about this post. Vote Yes or no on the following addition to the rules

• Completing a Taxi fast travel with insufficient funds to pay for it is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to using fast travel with $0 or going below 500k in the case of the pre-order bonus.

Suggesting wording changes is fine but yes or no on the overall resolution is required.

Yes.

yes

I will add it then. I will also add it to all stunt jumps even if it will be far less relevant.

There's probably a way to mod the game to remove the preorder bonus.

But it's a mod…

If you know how such a thing can be accomplished after the first mission with no negative reprocussions that would be cool.

Alright here: Take a taxi from the bottom of the map to the top of the map. That's about the longest that you can ride in a taxi. Then you will know what the maximum it will cost to ride a taxi is. Say for example (I have not tested it) that the cost comes out to be $143. If you have any less than $500,143 then I would not recommend taking a taxi unless you have cabbed before and you know how much it costs to get from say the hospital in LS to the letter in Blaine County. If your total drops below 500 thousand, than the run is invalid.That is the only way that I can see anything coming out of this.

I just tested it. A cab from Paleto Bay to Elysian Island Plaice Pl (7.94 miles) costs $173.