Chinese Takeout wall clip
7 years ago
United States

Saves about a minute. For reference, in Nozlar's old 1:49:20 WR, he took 5:45 between these same two points, and in his latest WR he took 5:28 (I took 4:33 in the video).

The wall clip requires you to hold W while spamming Space (jump/climb) and F (to cancel the climb animation and try again). It's a little bit inconsistent.

You can end up in a ¤mostly¤ textureless world either inside the same room or outside the building while attempting the clip. If this happens while still inside, just keep spamming your jump/climb key and F, as you'll still be in front of the box and can continue to attempt to clip out. If you end up in the outside ¤mostly¤ textureless world, you're probably going to fall off the roof while not being able to see anything (hopefully you survive). Run towards the nearest intersection to load the remaining textures.

On street level, a trigger exists to the right of the door. Hit it and then destroy the car to fail. Quickly pause/unpause to load the mission failed cutscene. Retry the mission, get in the car with Tony, finish the mission.

After hitting the trigger, retrying the mission after failing without dying will start you with full health and armor. Failing with a death will start you with full health and no armor. A seemingly impossible to pull off/faster/more risky strat would be to die after destroying Tony's car (likely with the car's explosion), retry the mission, spawn with full health and no armor, finish the mission, quickly find a cab and warp to Momma's Boy, kill the cab driver/catch the car on fire, blow up the car/burn yourself until you have half health or less, receive the call, start Momma's Boy. This would allow you to take the dive ASAP, but you'd be left with less than half health and zero armor.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
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Latvia

Maybe at full health Momma's Bros you could win the third guy and kill Santo? That might be faster plus you could yolo the next couple of missions without worrying about health

Edited by the author 7 years ago
United States

Yeah, maybe that's faster.

United States

The final guy requires three dodges/counters to beat, and takes forever to beat with only punch combos. If you can get three quick counters, it might be faster than taking enough punches to reach dive health. My gut is telling me it's faster to take the punches until you can take a dive because that seems to take about 5-10 seconds while three counters surely takes more than 10. Full armor and half health should be plenty to go all out on the next few missions, if you're experienced.

Hampshire, England

God damn it I was trying to clip out of the room before, didn't know about pressing F stuff. Awesome!

It sounds weird but is there nowhere you could Taxi warp to, to take HP damage? Say a high wall or something to take fall damage while waiting for the call?

EDIT: Tried some of my ideas, this seems to work.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Germany

TLDW pl0x :)

United States

Josh's idea added an extra 18 seconds to the between missions section. An optimal cab would have been 13 seconds faster (that would be you getting out of Tony's car immediately and getting into a cab sitting next to the Chinese Takeout finish location). There's a chance an optimal cab + warp location would have you jumping out just as the call is about to come in, which would likely delay the call. It could be faster in theory, but I still think countering once, then twice, then taking the damage you need on the third guy, will be faster almost always.

Noz proposed a route change which would have you doing Sexy Time after Chinese Takeout. You'd alert the patrols and take your damage from the patrol + the guys near the chopper. After, you'd do Momma's Boy. This would surely be the optimal/extremely ballsy route at the moment. Sexy Time is quicker with alert strats as well.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Zachodniopomorskie, Poland

I gonna have to look into this but generally if I forgot to lose health at chinese takeout for mommas boy then while waiting for yusuf to call I get hit by a car, dunno how optimal it really is,

United States

Another option is to take 2-3 whacks from the closest enemy at the start of Chinese Takeout's shootout. Hits from the butt of the gun don't damage armor. When I tried, two took me to about 60% health, three - 40%. Two whacks will cost about 5s, three - 7s. There's a risk of taking a lot of armor damage as you turn back to the room, so maybe it's best to shoot the guy who just whacked you. Try not to run too far into the hall.

Some additional stats: ¤An optimal third fight during which you get three quick counters + kill Santos will take ~22 seconds from gaining control to killing Santos ¤An optimal third fight during which you go from 100% health to dive health will take ~20-23 seconds, on average, from gaining control to first frame of fade-in after skipping the final cutscene ¤An optimal third fight during which you take a dive ASAP will take 11 seconds from gaining control to first frame of fade-in after skipping the final cutscene ¤10 seconds is the likely the fastest you can take 51% damage in a single fight, from gaining control to the final punch which drops you to <50% ¤Sub 8:40 is possible as I got an 8:41 RTA from the official Any% starting point to the first frame of control after Momma's Boy, using the whack strat

Edited by the author 7 years ago
United States

If your health is less than 50% when retrying the mission, you'll respawn with exactly 50% health. I know that you'll respawn with 100% after only a bit of fall damage (90%). Not sure what would happen with 51-75% until tests are done.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
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