I need help with duping
7 years ago
Virginia, USA

<mod edit> I've merged all of Noahm12345's question threads into one, to avoid clutter. You're very welcome to ask more questions, but please don't make a separate thread for each one! </mod edit>

Q: For some reason on homecoming I can get the truck part but once I get back to the mission I hold the call blow it up then the cut scene goes and I'm still holding tab and when the cut scene ends I let go of tab and it just leaves me in the ghost town can someone please help me

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Q: What does duping fish in a barrel do for you? A: it is supposed to skip Freefall A2: You watch a cutscene twice to skip one of the longest missions in the game.

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Q: Is they're a video explaining how to set up of skipping gang territories A: Hi, here's a video that helped with gang territories skip: , also read it's description. Hope it'll help you too.

Q: When you hold the call after the first los Desperados do you answer it in CJ's house or do you still hold it till the marker? A: You hold the call until you are inside the the house. Before entering the house, detonate the satchel at the last moment. Inside, let go of the call.

Q: When you get out of the first los desporatos do you answer the phone call after the mission starts? A: In most cases, no.

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Q: What order do the missions go in to ensure your success with duping fish in a barrel in A: Mission order - does not matter. See speedrun.com/gtasa for the WR and learn. ^^ The splits allow you to find the relevant section of the run quickly.

This guide is good enough, still: https://kb.speeddemosarchive.com/Grand_Theft_Auto:_San_Andreas/Missions/Dupes

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Q: I hold the call and let it go once the cutscene starts but it doesn't dupe the mission can you even dupe missions on the steam version?

Edited by Adam_ak 7 years ago
Washington, USA

RTLS dupes are no longer used. The gang territory skip is good enough.

The reason for that happening to you to answer the question anyway is that you're supposed to hold the call skipping the cutscene as fast as possible and then answering it while on the mission. Doing this prevents ghost town on all missions.

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Virginia, USA

It still seems to not work and I don't understand why I changed my answer phone call to left control and it still doesn't hold it

Germany

Editing this to be friendlier than the original :D This is what the guide I linked says.

[Quote]The information on this page mostly applies to the PC 1.x versions of the game. Duping doesn't seem to fully work on the Steam or Console versions[/quote]

In other words, downgrade. ^^ There is a downgrader in the SA guides section.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Virginia, USA

How do you hold phone calls in a car ?

Virginia, USA

Do you dupe any of truths missions??

Germany

I'll answer if you explain why you care about this.

Virginia, USA

Because I was practicing duping with the files and I noticed truths icon was still on the map so that's why

Germany

Ah. You couldn't have given a more interesting answer. :D It seemed like a totally random thing to ask.

This is a relic from when we didn't understand how calls work. We did Are You Going to San Fierro without answering the call that makes the TT marker appear on the map. That call is supposed to also unlock the mission but is actually optional because R¤ messed up. The hope was to have a call available for duping whenever we want one but then we noticed it is not that simple: it is random whether it is a Bad Lands or San Fierro call each time the phone rings so keeping the The Truth call is a pain. So tduva (I think he made the saves) just took it.

As to your question, I won't give you the answer directly, as usual and link you to a resource. Last link in this meta-guide: http://www.speedrun.com/gtasa/guide/yg0kv

The most important two guides I had linked already. One for the mission specifics and one for the "wtf is he talking about here" looking up of terms/concepts.

Edit: link fixed

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Virginia, USA

Thank you I was just so confused for a bit

Virginia, USA

One last question so when I'm setting up the dupe for kid desperatos why does the call not come in right after I get out of 8 track it has like a 2 second delay so I can't hold the call and get to the marker because the call is delayed

Germany

I don't know. I'll check once I feel like it but all you need to know is: dw about it, it doesn't work, we don't know how to fix it if it is possible.

Germany

8-track ended 2 frames before CJ was considered to be not inside an interior, anymore. You cannot get calls inside interiors, so you get the call at least 2 frames after 8-track failed. Since the way duping with calls works is that you are holding a call while a mission ends, it does not work in this case. Blood Bowl, on the other hand does not end as fast, so a call can squeeze in before that mission ends.

I did not care to get the details perfectly right. Maybe it is possible to use 8-track like Blood Bowl if you get insane luck or something. :D It is not worth it, though.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Virginia, USA

I figured out how to do it perfectly Patrick and it works 100% of the times when you pause buffer at eight track and you get the call right after you get done pause buffering hold down tab and alt fire and get out of the car and when you get out of the car run far enough to explode it then keep holding tab till you get back to the sweet marker it works all the time

Virginia, USA

I can post a tutorial but you'll have to explain to me how to get the buttons to show up on the screen

Germany

I had assumed that you'd have remembered that from Mh's "tutorial".

Virginia, USA

He never said anything about it so I figured it out myself

Virginia, USA

If I posted a tutorial for gang territories where would I upload it?

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