Hey everybody, today we’re announcing a new set of rules for the leaderboard that will go into effect starting on October 1, 2018. It's linked below, and the two biggest changes we’re making are as follows:
-Runs on the PC leaderboard will now be ranked via load-remover time (LRT) instead of in-game time (IGT). -All submissions for every category to the PC leaderboard will now require video proof, regardless of time and rank.
These changes might seem drastic and controversial to some of you, but we believe that they’re steps that need to be taken for the future of the RE4 speed running community. While the game’s IGT, which includes all loading screens, might have been fine for console runs where most runners ran using the same hardware, on PC there’s a clear imbalance as some have PCs which are naturally faster than others. The LRT that’s been developed and used in recent months removes many of the game’s loading screens and provides a much more fair and competitive environment for the game on PC.
To address the second major rule change, we believe that runs on PC are simply too easy to cheat in some way due to the availability of trainers and cheat engine, and that picture proof of the final results screen and typewriter save just isn’t enough. On top of this, programs like OBS and XSplit are free to use for both streaming and recording long videos, giving little excuse for runners to not be recording their PC runs in some capacity.
We’ve taken most runs that were submitted without LRT and changed them to have their IGT act as their LRT, in order to smoothen the transition for when it happens. We hope that this two-week grace period will give everyone time to set up their LRT, troubleshoot it, ask questions, give us feedback, and to update their times.
Final things to stress:
-All runs that were verified before the new ruleset is enacted WILL REMAIN verified. You don’t need to worry about your old runs without VODs being retroactively rejected. -For console runners: almost nothing has changed on your end, as most of the major changes are for PC runners only, so don’t stress too much over the change. We do still recommend reading through the new ruleset, though. -The ruleset being linked is not final, and is subject to change before October 1. -The new ruleset for each individual category will be more fully fleshed out by October 1.
Link to a PDF containing a general overview of the new rules:
Are people still able to submit runs without LRT, so there is only a vid recorded run with the IGT time in the end ?
Yes you'll probably be able to do this, but you'll give yourself a huge disadvantage since LRT will be the main time method and not the IGT
People not submitting runs with an LRT is covered in the doc, and like SeemNome has said, we're basically using those run's IGTs as a substitute for LRT. So yes, not using LRT will put you at a big disadvantage, but we're hoping that this will be the driving force towards people recognizing LRT as the primary timing method and using it for all their runs in every category.
the idea is good it allows to have a good time even with a pc not terrible, BUT the current LRT is not yet accurate enough. indeed sometimes it happens that the LRT bug,. and then there is currently no tutorial to make it work, a new runner will be totally lost. the last time it did not work, I hope for you that it will work today and in the future.
MIKE__WAVE is currently working on a video to show how work the LRT. We know that the current LRT isn't perfect, but it is still objectively a better timing method than IGT for PC by far.
LRT has been improved the past few months and is now a pretty accurate method to compare times between runners despite the fact that it still doesn't cut the inventory's loading times. IGT can still be used to estimate how good was the run compare to the game's official timer, LRT will give best accuracy to it, both being complementary to each other.
For console the IGT is still a very effective method to compare times but it's true that some hardwares are still better than others. For example for gamecube version, it's recommended to play on either a black Wii or the gamecube itself, white wiis are slower.
By the way i would love to add that it would be amazing to maybe see Gamecube version uses LRT as most people already know is probably the fastest version of re4 without loads (including inventory) Maybe one day :)
As a follow-up on this post. A tutorial for those wondering how to set up LRT or just Livesplit in general. Or just wanna see an example showing the difference between the two timers.
I guess it's a good change to make, if it makes it much fairer for the players on PC consoles to submit times and compete without different loading times taken into account - in order to keep those playing on that PC with faster loading time from being always ranked up high in the leaderboards thanks to that whereas those with one with slower loading time always falling behind them.
. On top of that, offtopic, clearly rude and/or jokey replies on the rules forum post have been deleted. This post will remain locked for a while until things calm down.
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