Is TURBO Allowed
4 years ago
Somerset, England

Watching world record time and looks like turbo is being used. Is it allowed in the any% run. THANKS

Québec

many of current runs in fester's quest do use it and it's bs to be honest. most runners who would try doing the run legit wouldn't have the endurance to actually go through the whole game. dead forearm syndrome style. Remove all turbo submissions

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Somerset, England

I agree. I can mash ok but I can't see how current best time is mash. Got to be turbo just for consistency alone. I may be wrong and not calling out people or anything of such at all just curious and trying to work on game strats. But if the form is turbo then.....

Somerset, England

I've just watched even more and ALL the top runs are using turbo.... Like they are defo using turbo. We need a new category on this leaderboard for real no turbo times as half are not valid. Can any mods advise please.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
Somerset, England

MrPupG should hold first place time. First person not using turbo. Can we re vet the any% please would re invigorate adding times and running this game as well. THOUGHTS

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Québec

I tried talking about it in the past but, fame over virtue is corrupting the this category. Sad really. Should def have a tab strictly mentioning NO Turbo. It's extremely obvious when it is used. And for those who do use it, means that they are unable to play the game without it. Unable to endure the mashing.

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Somerset, England

I have messaged a mod for this group direct and asked about this. As in the rules for this category it says NO TURBO, BEAT THE GAME. So this has to be changed. If it's not gonna take to a site mod as seems silly having a catagory that is just straight wrong. I understand that in a game where some heavy mashing in parts is required that turbo is an option on EMU. But on a console that never had it seems odd as this ends up being an EMU only catagory otherwise. I have also offered to be a mod for this forum.

Maryland, USA

I'm confused. No one should be using turbo in general for this game or almost any NES game. Do you want a new category that allows Turbo? Because otherwise it's all of us hurting our fingers on the farm. And that's the only thing that would even require Turbo. If someone is using Turbo that would be against the rules.

Maryland, USA

I'll look at them a bit harder but I know some def don't for others I can double check.

Top run has an input display for controller. Turbo would be just holding down the button. This has it being pressed and released so most likely turbo is not being used.

Otherwise from what I can tell the others are all known runners, who do not use turbo. I could be completely wrong. And if proof comes up I'll take the fall. But as far as I know no one is using that turbo button.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
Maryland, USA

It's possible though things might look different if one is used to seeing the 50 hrz version of the game? Though that has other major differences which might make it it's own category... maybe not sure about that one.

North Carolina, USA

Toad is definitely not using turbo, though I haven't had an opportunity to look closely at anybody else. I am responding only to the claim that everybody above MrPupG is using turbo. Many of them may very well be using turbo without saying so.

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Maryland, USA

I know I don't :P but as far as i know the others above him aren't either. Zakky is a good speedrunner, does other non turbo useful games etc with good times. The inputs in MSP isn't always exactly the same frequency for each "turbo" so It doesn't seem like he is. Dad from what i talked to doesn't seem to use it.

But i mean we aren't in the room with them during the run. It's possible they do but that would be pretty scummy and would open up other runs they did to scrutiny. People don't usually want to fk over all their speedruns by turboing.

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Somerset, England

Maybe it's just be but unless there is some serious mash efforst being put in they just look to consistent up to 6th to not be using turbo. Maybe it's just me.p

Somerset, England

That's all cool not trying to call people out or be an arse, just my lack of understanding. By the look of it then I just need to get my mash better :-)

Somerset, England

So I have had a revelation and realised why everything looked wierd. I was running game in PAL hence why everything looked super slow amd could not work out why people were walking faster and looked like turbo was on............... YAY my brain is officially un melted :-)

Arizona, USA

Sounds like you guys are saying I'm a crappy speedrunner that can't mash fast. I'm pretty much mashing really fast there in my run but my finger were killing me as I'm trying to get close to sub 15. On top of that, those above me, they weren't even using turbo. I'm pretty sure they never use them but there one or 2 that I just met and don't know anything about them.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
Somerset, England

Dude I even stated I was not calling people out and confessed my own ignorance to understanding the run. Please don't make this wired I also found out that running in NTSC is what makes everything seem super fast. ITS A HUGE DIFFERENCE. I think I watched your run like 5 to 10 times to get good ideas for my run. I was just super confused. Try running in PAL and u will see exactly what I mean it was wrecking my brain. If you thought I was being rude please except an apologie that was never my intention.

Arizona, USA

I'm not saying that. It how I read it from that interpretation but realize you said " MrPupG should hold first place time" because you thought other are using turbo.

Yea, PAL and NTSC seems to have the difference. I have to check if PAL is slow or just too much lag in there that makes it too slow. If I'm not mistaken, PAL runs at 50 as NTSC runs at 60

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Maryland, USA

Ok the answer was reached let's cut that haha.

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