Patch/leaderboard changes
7 years ago
Georgia, USA

A lot of the comments from that reddit thread said the communities wiped boards or archived them.

Are you saying just to wipe the boards because they're not current version and leave out talk of glitches? Something like "Use current game" and just wipe every major patch?

British Columbia, Canada

Yes. That is 100% what I have been saying this entire time.

Either wipe it all, or don't wipe at all. Just don't pick and choose.

Georgia, USA

I'd be fine with that.

United States

Not completely caught up on what happened but it looks like there's a discussion about removing past runs due to new patches. I'd agree that any new patch would invalidate any past runs so removing them seems like a reasonable solution.

Archiving them would be a better one if possible since it's nice to have your past runs up somewhere.

If archiving isn't an option, then just stating in the rules that "Upon new a patch, all runs on previous patches will be invalidated" would certainly be a good idea. Would also be good to put that in the rules if archiving is a thing actually but to say "archived under that patch #" instead of invalidated.

Unfortunately, I can see this being discouraging to new runners that their past runs might get removed completely but in terms of objective rulings I'd agree that it is the way to go and better in the long run. It'd be nice if there was some solution to this but I'm drawing a blank right now and I'm a little busy so can't really comment much further. If anything else comes to mind I'll be sure to say something.

Thanks for having this discussion everyone and thank you to the moderators for your hard work addressing the issue.

Sweden

I dont think that archiving is a thing on this website, atleast to my own and some other peoples knowledge. I still believe that archiving is a bad thing, but if everyone wants it and you find a viable solution of how to make the archives then of course we'll get it. Do you know if the archiving happened on this website or if they had to use a separate website?

Also, why i dislike archiving is mainly because that would essentially mean having separate leaderboards for every patch.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Isle of Man

Hi, I don't run this game, but after reading this it's apparent some help is needed.

I spoke with one of the admins of speedruns.com and he suggested the following. Let's take the 4-char board for example. You can just rename "4 Char" to "4 Char v1.09" and set it to the "misc" categories. Then create an new "4 Char" category which will be the current version. This would preserve the patch records (assigning the categories to misc hides them behind a fold) and would let you do this indefinitely.

There is no true "archive" feature, but this does make sense to preserve what is there and keep versions separated.

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Sweden

If people want this we could do it, personally i believe it's a super shitty thing to do. However, if the community thinks having multiple "sub-categories" for every patch is a good thing, we could do it.

Isle of Man

People could technically submit scores to the older patches (if you can get them installed via Steam correctly) if they want.

England

I don't think there's a need to have boards for old patches, doing so would end up being very messy. Wiping the board every patch would also be silly imo as many are not likely to redo a time for every category they were wiped from, and it's already pretty sparse. I think the best solution is to just remove runs if they have a discernible advantage for being done on an older patch.

I wouldn't mind there being a single "hall of fame" category, where noteworthy removed runs from all other categories were put just so the curious could look at them. For example the 15:15 run sounds worth watching, but the only reason I know about it is because of this thread.