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Thanks Gangscred - I look forward to SR2 whenever it comes out!

I agree Viktoracri that an on screen FPS counter would solve the problem. I did find a Samsung app that let me display FPS in top corner (I am always on 60 FPS except on the very rare occasion it drops to 58-59). However, the screen recorder doesn't pick up the FPS counter so it won't show on the videos. I have looked on Google Play for some third party apps for FPS display but can't find any good one, and I imagine those would not show on the video either.

I think for the moment the only option is to leave it to the runners in glitchless to flag up any suspected lag and to explain their reasons to the mods if an individual run is queried. Runners should also not take offence if one of their runs is queried, as lag can happen without the runner's knowledge, and querying a run does not amount to an accusation of cheating.


Thanks Viktoracri. For the avoidance of doubt, I certainly don't accuse Masterlol of deliberately lag-glitching and it is easy to get lag inadvertently.

I also agree that the lag is often not obvious on a watch-through so the mods can't be expected to pick it up at the verification stage.

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I just thought I would mention that some runs are it seems influenced by lag.

I noticed that in Masterlol's glitchless level 4, he shoots off the start and is at the first boost about 0.8s ahead of the other runs. He then maxes at 32 whereas the other runs max at about double that. Despite that, his time is almost 1s up. His ghost also beats him but his time shows as an improvement.

I am not for a second suggesting the run is cheated as it is clear from the video that it isn't, and it's great to see you join in Masterlol. I just think that there was a bit of a glitch it seems probably resulting from lag, which we know affects the times, and thought I would flag it up and see whether people think laggy runs might be better in any%?

Incidentally, I am bottom in that IL, so this isn't me trying to win by default.

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Would it be possible to add categories for completing World 1, World 2 etc (ranked in real time)? Reason is that single segment multi-level runs would add an element of strategy, in balancing between optimal settings but avoiding time cost in changing the settings.

The full game run is 20-30 mins which might be a little too long for some people to want to try it, but World 1 for instance is about 2 mins.

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I certainly think a glitchless full game category might become worthwhile if more people start running full game, but it is just me and gangscred at the moment and gangscred's run does not contain any huge glitches so it is not a problem. Also, moderating a full game run for glitchless would be a pain for MrVirus and gangscred. If someone does a full game run and gets a few really big lags then a glitchless full game category might be worth it but not for now.

As for IL, I think a glitchless category is now essential because I can see any% becoming an exercise in FPS manipulation. Incidentally, (in case I am accused of sour grapes) I still think Cant Connect and GDAnnnoid would be top in glitchless as I have watched their runs and they are super fast even without the glitches.

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Great full game run gangscred! I have struggled to get the time to sit down and try and improve my full game time but will definitely be doing so soon.

gangscred likes this. 

Good call MrVirus, the glitches are very hardware sensitive so a glitchless category is a nice leveller (although any% is still very fun to watch and very competitive).

I can foresee some difficulty to moderate - it would help if people could wait a moment or two (literally just a half-second or more) at the start of the run before moving, so that is is crystal clear that there is no jump start. Timer doesn't start until first move, so no disadvantage in a short wait.

I think I'll mainly run glitchless as I can't seem to get the huge jump starts on my phone.

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To quickly add to the above list of recommended mobile games for speedrunning, Speed Run for Android is well worth a look. It is pure platform speedrunning and a lot of fun.

Oxknifer and MrVirusYT like this. 

Thanks for the full game run Gangscred, I will watch with great interest and try and improve my time!

Well done MrVirus on the guide and well done Choc on the great times - I have a feeling fully optimising the levels will take a long time but lots of fun in the process!

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Wow, thanks Gangscred for your lightning reply! This is a massive help and thanks again for the game, it's a great platformer and I will be recommending it to lots of people.


Thanks guys. I may actually try emailing the dev.

TweniThree likes this. 

It's completely each person's choice, but if submissions could include a note of the settings used that would be really useful for anyone trying to improve their times.

Also, does anyone know if there is any benefit in reducing the velocity setting? Presumably not but I am not sure how exactly how the game physics work.

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I for one would pay more than $5 per year to use the site without any additional perks, they are just a nice extra. The site owners could I think have been forgiven for monetising the site loads when it took off, but here it is, still free. Bravo to them.


Thanks Sleepwalker and crikey what a great sub-30! I think it's a long hard slog for me to get near that but will keep trying.

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Ta MrVirus, I will definitely give it a look!

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Reeeaally weird request, but do you mind if cover changes to a square one, e.g.:

I have a little OCD.


Hi youfaceson.

To be honest, I have no splits prepared but I know that Zarcatus' run includes splits so might be worth messaging him on Twitch / YT.

Looking forward to seeing your run!


Please can I be made a mod of Mod has been inactive for 3 weeks (same period as my run has been pending). I have tried contacting him via Twitch PM and on game's forum but no reply.


I have revised the 100% rules so no CD permitted. If you wanted a 100% with CD please let me know. Look forward to seeing your run!

I have seen a list of the achievements at and some of them look pretty tough. Getting the 999 soul shards in particular could take some grinding (I did once get a glitch maxing SS at the end of the ice dwarf fight but have never been able to replicate -


All done xEarthx. I have made the 100% category coin doubler permitted - unless you would prefer that it be without coin doubler? To be honest, it would probably not effect the time too much as you will be getting plenty of coins in the chests anyway.


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