New Category request? Maybe? Please?
4 years ago
Missouri, USA

After thinking about this and seeing we have nothing related to this at the moment I propose a new category to spark some competition.

You could call it "Ultra Classic" or "Glitch-less SR40" or something like that. here are the Rules I can think of at the moment. I totally welcome suggestions on this as well.

Saving allowed. -complevel 3 (No Jumping, crouching, infinite monster height, etc.) Using SR50 IS NOT ALLOWED AT ALL Using SR40 is Allowed Auto-Run is Allowed No Major / Minor "Map" Glitches (eg. using the map in a way it wasn't intended such as, E2M2 Button hit from the acid Pit below Exit, or E2M6 No clip glitch to exit. etc..)

So hear me out on this one. Here is why I would like to see this category created.

If you remember back in the very early days of DOOM and if you had certain brands of computers (notably really cheap ones) it was literally impossible to do SR50 due to limit of how many buttons on a keyboard that could be pressed at the same time. Also some of those computers didn't have a mouse or trackball because they were still rocking DOS so why would you need one? So that would further limit how many buttons could be pressed at any one given time and on some preventing SR50 completely or even giving problems to Ruining, moving forward, Shooting, turning, and Strafing in a normal game play method.

Also using the Glitches in the maps were you could no clip to the exit or hit the button from the pit kind of take way from the original game on how the developers meant for it to be played. Hence the "Classic" part of my suggestion. Also these maps glitches weren't "IMO" widely known until several years after the release of the game.

So the sprite of the rules for this Category is "as if you just opened the box for the first time and knew nothing of the game before, and playing on limited hardware".

Anyway let me know what you think, be nice tho. :)

SmellySquirrel and JonaG like this
Denmark

Jona. It's literally the easiest thing in the world to see who uses sr50, since only demos can be allowed in ULTRA CLASSIC

Berlin, Germany

This would be noted as "intended route, sr40-only" on dsda. Plenty of runs use one or both of these conditions, and you're welcome to submit them on dw. I've done some intended route runs as well, when they're interesting and distinct. Don't expect a category that (in general) removes the interesting and challenging elements from doom speedrunning to become "official" though.

Russia

While I do have nothing against you playing that way, I'll refuse your offer on actually creating that as separate category.

Main reasons being:

  1. Tracking "no sr50" is harder than you might imagine. While you might just setup it in such a way that you are playing fair and legit not using key setups or port with either auto sr50 or forced auto sr50 (prboom+ 2.5.1.4 without patch). But that can't be said for everyone who MIGHT want to run this, it will require keyboard layout on stream, keybindings, port to be submitted AND on top of that doublechecked everything. If that were to be done I'd actually request demo, since we can verify if any of stated above actually happends. But if you want to do demo, you might aswell go to doomedsda.us and check something called UV-Stroller, and just run that.
  2. Deciding on what's MAJOR or MINOR map glitch is one hell of a feat. You, for example can't finish map 7 in doom 2 intended way if you are doing nomo, there is NO way around that. You either RJ or ZeroPress to the exit. There are some jumps that you can easily make with sr40 and not with strolling. You can get pushed by cyberdemon rocket in e4m6 somewhere you couldn't go normally. Would that mean you broke rules and force reset? Too many uncertainties, which require full-on "same" route for each level. Doesn't sound too bad to play that way, if you feel like it, but if you expect someone to verify that kind of stuff as straight-on category that is bold move.

That being said, you can run all you want and submit it to LBs.

JonaG, allancg, and LasTYNS like this
Ceará, Brazil

the problem with banning SR 50, is that SR50 can be easily achieved in a unintended way in some levels, you just need to be dragging in some wall doing SR40 and the thing can happen.

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