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I was hoping to start speed running this game in November, can we add a new category for Whip Only - Hard Mode?

DesolisDesolis, BurbBurb and sprivenspriven like this. 

I just finished routing it in tas:

used EU color version to minimize lag, but it would be the same on gameboy, just slower because of more lag.

only difference between hard mode and not hard mode is more enemies downgrade your whip. The spawns are the same, same health, deals the same amount of damage.

From what I can tell, the enemies other than the normal spitter bubbles that downgrade your whip are:

big bats

which makes the route in plant castle a little different because of the eyeball bridges, other than that stage though hard mode doesn't change anything for the route.

sprivenspriven likes this. 

i'm down for it. it's not a very huge change to routing and bosses considering burb's research..but i think it could be an interesting challenge. although maybe low% would be a better category since that would change everything completely.

i'd like to see what rayquaza has to say about it. i am mod here now but i'm not trying to step on anyone's toes and just start adding categories for everything. ray has been the active mod here for a long time so whatever he thinks about this category. i'll be kool with.


My opinion on the whole hard mode thing - it isn't challenging enough, it just arbitrarily extends the category by a couple of seconds (didn't actually test the difference) by taking a different route in ONE room of the entire game. Even then you could still take the normal route and just get two more orbs. It doesn't change the routing enough. Now, if ALL enemies downgraded you, different story. But as it is, it just makes the category slower with no extra challenge.

Hard mode also isn't viable for a low% run, since then you'd be running on leather whip always anyway.

So from me it's a YES vote for whip only, but a NO vote for hard mode.

xenkaroshixenkaroshi and sprivenspriven like this. 

If you want a challenge run, then how about low% ?

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