New York City, NY, USAThe new route is still in its infancy however I wanted to make a thread dedicated to it.
Current Ideas:
Party members that could be removed from the route:
Landsknecht - The current route uses the landsknecht once in the run. The purpose of this member is to have the first Ragelope target it instead of the Palidin or Alchemist. This could possibly be routed out if RNG is manipulated differently. Just a thought.
Medic - I have talked to PPJ about this one for a while. The Medic is used 3 times over the course of the run. The first of which is in Stratum 1 where it gains enough levels to learn Cure and Unbind. It is then used again during one of the Stratum 3 grinding sections to use Unbind. It's main use is for the Ren and Tlatchga fight at the beginning of Stratum 5. It uses Unbind on Hexer 1 and then Unbind on Hexer 2. I don't believe the Medic is useful at all. It uses Unbind on characters that are bound however none of those binds impact the characters abilities so it only serves to advance the RNG values. I feel that the Medic could be replaced with another damage dealing character (Possibly another Hexer with Suicide).
Party members that will most likely stay:
6 Survivalists - They all play very important roles in the run. i.e. High Agility, S1 Take drops, Stalker, Ambush.
2 Alchemists - At the beginning of the run, Alchemist 1 is a huge asset with Poison. Alchemist 1 is also used a good bit through the rest of the run as well. Alchemist 2 is a toss up. It is used to deal with the Rollers in the Cernunnos fight as well as being utilized to quickly end all 3 fights in the Stratum 3 grinding section. Alchemist 2's future in the run is certainly something we should think about.
2 Hexers - Bar none probably the most useful class for fighting the late game bosses. They make quick work of Iwaopeln, Ren and Tlatchga, and Etreant. Evil Eye and Suicide absolutely cripple bosses and Relapse allows you to continually use Suicide without worrying about losing fear on them.
Dark Hunter - Dark Hunter makes Stratum 4 doable. Petrify is insane. There is no doubt in my mind that it is staying.
Paladin/Protector - Used in the entire run. Parry is super useful throughout the majority of the game and access to Anticold for Cotrangl is amazing. This will stay in the route unless we find some heavy manip for Cotrangl or something else comes up.
Route Changes:
Replace Medic with another Hexer - This could cut the turns for Iwaopeln, Ren and Tlatchga, and Etreant in half. Having another Hexer with Evil Eye and Suicide would double the possible damage output for the late game bosses.
Change Grinding to incorporate Petrify - I feel if instead of fighting long, menu intensive encounters to do the grinding section we could instead fight FOEs utilizing the Dark Hunter with manipulated petrifys. Again I have done no testing with this strategy but it is something to consider.
This is what I am thinking about atm. Please let me know if you guys have any other thoughts. Any ideas are appreciated :D
Alexo I have given you supermod and you are welcome to do what you want with the boards since you are the most active. If you need me or proinfernape to do anything for you feel free to post below.
This change seems fine UndertakerofSouls. if you need more board permissions for changes lmk. As for the 100%, you are welcome to do a run and I or one of the other mods will add it. It would most likely just be completing the mingames and idk if that really warrants a different category but whatever I would still be happy to add it.
people were routing this at one point but that was a LOOOOONG time ago. I'm sure if you routed it and did runs you could get them to add you as mod to set the rules.
Ohh that's right! Thanks for correcting me on that Nev, my memory has been a bit hazy since then. :)
For the record PS2 emulators for the most part are highly inaccurate and should not be used to speedrun. I think there are some runs on the SMT/Persona boards that still allow them though. I think they make some distinction between runs on Console and Emulator however.
P sure it was because Pixql and Ghostscit ran NG+ on emu. I'm sure your run would be fine.
Most people do FES and P3P. Turbo controller allows for frame perfect input i.e. holding turbo on the X button can scroll text as fast as possible.
Still need subcategories to submit other endings. Link to NG+ Armoroad run:
I'm currently doing NG+ runs of the endings and would like for you guys to add a NG+ category with subcategories for the endings. Thanks!
EDIT: here is a link to a Deep City run I did
not bad
Chex Quest follows the same rules as Doom. UV-Speed means you complete all the maps as fast as you can without dying. there is no UV 100% however UV-Max means pretty much the same thing. UV-Max means that the player has to complete all the maps, kill all enemies, and find all of the secrets.
Crisco you honestly sound like a SMT mod at this point lol
