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Forum: Sonic Mania

Thread: The Sonic Mania Plus leaderboard has now been merged into this board! + application for new verifiers

Started by: Xandre69Xandre69

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As of November 4, 2020, the work has been done regarding the merge of the Sonic Mania Plus leaderboard back into this old one after deliberation done with the other Sonic mods regarding the future of this game. We saw it fit to now merge the games back into one board due to factors relating to the devs having been moved on their own paths beyond working on this game any further. We took into consideration the possibility of the game having more patches/updates that would have further changed the game on a gameplay level that would have warranted further separation, this is why the split of boards happened in the first place back in 2018 when Plus launched. This is no longer the case where this is a concern so this idea became obsolete which lead to this merge taking place.

To quickly address the reasoning regarding why the old board was chosen over the new one, the old leaderboard was ultimately the larger board of the two with more runs recorded despite it only being used for barely under a year unlike the new board's 2+ years at this point. This reason alone along with historical purposes is why the old leaderboard narrowly won over the new leaderboard.

From an (edited) announcement I made in the Mania channel on the Sonic Speedrunning Discord server:

"[...] Three key changes have been done to the leaderboard to accommodate for this are as follows:
- Added all categories (and new/transferred rules) from the Plus leaderboard for full game runs and ILs. This includes guides and resources too.
- Due to runner request, the Emeralds variable for non-Sonic characters has now been converted into two separate subcategory tabs: 'No Emeralds' and 'All Emeralds'. All No Emerald runners can now have fun optimizing the game without having to deal with Emerald shenanigans.
- All Unpatched/Patched ILs have been separated through their two separate version tabs respectively across all levels instead of specific ones (where certain exploits/skips were only doable in Unpatched, therefore making them impossible to beat on Patched). This makes the layout of the IL board more clean and consistent to navigate.
- Everything else minor from the Plus leaderboard etc.

I also have another special announcement to make, we are now offering appointed verifier positions for new fresh people to help out on the board for any runs that need to be verified! You can find the application for this through the link here to fill out: https://forms.gle/GMcHYGqKcDrzkTz98

There will be a 3 week waiting period (starting from November 2, 2020) to ensure the process of picking out the best candidates is done carefully (2 will be chosen, possibly 3 if the number of applications submitted is high) giving plenty of time for people interested to see and submit."

If any runs were missed or messed up during this merging process then please let me or another Mania mod know through a DM so it can be corrected (or just resubmit, that works too). It's also worth noting all Plus runs that no longer have a functional VOD as of the time when the merge started were noted as 'Mod note: Deleted VOD' or something similar along those lines, just in case if that might sound misleading otherwise to anyone. Lastly, all forums posts from the Plus leaderboard have been cataloged so all the history and data from that board are still intact in the hands of the Mania mods. Thank you for reading.

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Forum: Sonic Mania

Thread: Rules and Categories

Started by: wersterwerster

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Even if you don't have the paid DLC, your version still falls under being the newest patch of Mania fyi.

 

Forum: Sonic Mania

Thread: Rules and Categories

Started by: wersterwerster

If your copy of Mania is updated to the latest version, then you should submit to the new Sonic Mania leaderboard. I see that Ben posted it already before me so there you go.

 

Forum: Sonic CD

Thread: Maybe a category for Time Stones?

Started by: DespatcheDespatche

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The main issue with adding an All Time Stones category is at this current point in time, there is no interest expressed by the community currently. Having an empty category on a leaderboard looks bad, and creating one just to fulfill one person's wish isn't a good enough reason. The only way that it could be considered is if at least two people ran the category, which would be a bare minimum. This can always change in the future however, but right now, it's simply just not a plausible idea.

 

Forum: Sonic CD

Thread: Am I allowed to submit a run from the mobile version?

Started by: BatDorkBatDork

The version you're referring to is CD 2011, please go the page for that game instead.

 

Forum: Sonic Mania

Thread: Mania Plus Leaderboards - Do not submit here

Started by: wersterwerster

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Yes, in the form of how every IL on this leaderboard is recorded.

 

Forum: Sonic Mania

Thread: Replay?

Started by: bluerapids12bluerapids12

After some discussion with the other mods for this game, unfortunately the replay system will not be accepted for IL submissions when the leaderboards update. Two reasons being that replays are broken for some people, so runs might not look right or weird, and that there is the potential of cheating. The only way to ensure that these issues don't occur is to record ILs just as how they have always been.

 

Forum: Sonic Mania

Thread: Replay?

Started by: bluerapids12bluerapids12

Yes, when the leaderboards here update for Plus 🙂

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Forum: Introductions

Thread: Hold my beer

Started by: Kay-LinKay-Lin

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I want to let everyone here know that the issue has been resolved. I was the mod who rejected it because the video was taken down along with the channel according to Youtube at the time I looked at the run. I came back and re-verified it a bit later on, so I thank Kay-Lin for posting this thread since I was not aware of the situation. 🙂

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Forum: Sonic Mania

Thread: Slight changes to leaderboards - suggestions

Started by: wersterwerster

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Voting for Patched/Unpatched. I like the juxtaposition between the two names and it would help clarify to viewers to see whether a certain run is done in either of the two versions. This will also clear the issue of someone submitting a run to both versions, which I personally do not approve of, since it just clutters the leaderboard. As soon as there is a method to get Unpatched on the Switch, I will definitely consider also running that category as well when the time comes.

 

Forum: Sonic Mania

Thread: Is there any difference between versions?

Started by: MankatMankat

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Hello, with the current patch out for the PS4 and likewise for PC, there are no differences between the two in terms of mechanics and glitches. The reason why are there so many PC runners is because of the freedom you have in choosing what controller you can use and simplicity of recording runs. Unlike the console versions of the game, where a capture card is required.

The prepatch version of Sonic Mania for the PS4, Xbox One, and the Switch are different however, since some glitches work differently (e.g. Studiopolis 2 pipe clipping glitch) and others that are only present in said version. When the PC version came out, many of the glitches present in that version of the game were removed and thus made runs a bit slower than prepatched. The Switch is undoubtedly a popular console, so it's no surprise that some of the top runners play on it. I would say that play whichever is comfortable for you, so don't worry about any differences since all platforms are the same, unless you have prepatch for console. 🙂

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