Forums  /  The Site  /  Leaderboards moderation requests thread
  teenyteeny

requesting mod for johnny 3 and johnny 4 as the moderator for both games has been offline for a year
https://www.speedrun.com/j3
https://www.speedrun.com/johnny4

 
  DangerlessDangerless

@TheBlazeJp Not interested in a rant and my opinion still stands, what Jammy decides to do is his own choice. Series mods do not "own" other game leaderboards within its series and do not get special privileges so where we stand on this hasn't/won't change.

DelnDeln likes this. 
  shadoweh91shadoweh91

Hi I'm requesting to have myself and https://www.speedrun.com/user/Tagerplayer to be a moderator for Duel Masters. Reason being my Duel Masters run was submitted in early April as shown here: https://www.speedrun.com/Duel_Masters/run/m7p477wm and the one and only moderator has not responded to me. I would like to make Tagerplayer a moderator as well because he is a friend of mine that plans on doing a run in the future and I don't feel comfortable verifying my own run. Thank you for taking the time and consideration to read this message. Duel Masters Leaderboard page: https://www.speedrun.com/Duel_Masters

 
  TheBlazeJpTheBlazeJp

Thanks for that @Dangerless
Not sure where I put anywhere that I want "special privileges" or to "own" a board or to "make up rules" for a game "I dont run" with 450 hours in.
You say you want to avoid a rant but seem quick to throw those at me which isn't very nice and couldn't be more from how it is.

Been nothing but respectful and civil explaining how as a community we discuss things. I have given just reasoning to everything you questioned.

I created my Initial post because Jammys current Any% Wr Run is Illegal and not Any% but a seperate category because it uses tracks not in the "Base Game".
And we felt that the leaderboards are in need of mods with years of experience setting them up to adress this and setting up the other categories for the community who have sent me questions on how they run them.

I'm not going to say anymore. Apparently I'm being treated like I have done something wrong which puzzles me.

Jammy has got back to me and we are discussing things today so I'm going to leave it there.

 
  DangerlessDangerless

@TheBlazeJp I disagree with much of what you say and this has to do with how series mods tend to think as a whole, Jammy has gotten back to you and whatever he decides is okay by us seeing as how the state of the board was, actually fine. A leaderboard is not defined by what series mods think and I think that is something you may might to consider when trying to enforce future decisions on games none of you moderated in the first place, which again the first thing you should've actually done was talk the Super Mod about the game and I assume the others felt no need to wanting to do so as well but decided to just request (or enforce) all of you to just get assigned it.

You can see the outliner where it looks bad, even if it isn't your intent, it is what it appears to be to us. I personally don't care for the rant or the excuse being provided, I'm pointing out where it was unfair to Jammy and the original request. This had less to do about "you" and more to do with the "request/decision" made here when posted.

Also; "I created my Initial post because Jammys current Any% Wr Run is Illegal and not Any% but a seperate category because it uses tracks not in the "Base Game". That was your opinion, not literal fact. A leaderboard is setup to however its moderators feel it should be set up and if something is wrong/unfair/etc then it should be directed to the games leaderboard moderators with making amendments or potential changes. I also provided how two games in the series modded by Trials don't even have rule defined. No offense, but what you are saying here is pretty bent backwards.

In short, again, what Jammy does is up to him and

 
  TheBlazeJpTheBlazeJp

A game non of us have moderated?
Nobody has moderated it. There is 1 run.

A run which currently is Incorrect.

The game has been out for 3 months and there is only 1 run and leaderboard which has been set up wrong.

Trials Games are complex to set up guidlines and timing rules for.

This is even more evident considering the single category and the only run in the Trials Rising section currently is an Illegal run because it uses content from a DLC patch 2 months into the game.

Any% Is base game content. What was available day 1 of the games release.

It's not just my opinion, that is how it is. Dlc is used in the current run of Any% and that is wrong.

I had every reason to make a post here.

Trials Games havent changed much in their structure over the years and don't have obvious timing points for categories and category guidelines.

Which is why Mod experience from past games is very beneficial.

 
  DangerlessDangerless

@TheBlazeJp This is the last time I am going to address your post and I will break it down.

"A game non of us have moderated? Nobody has moderated it. There is 1 run."

Yes, none of you moderated it and it had one user that moderates it that is not part of your series moderation.

"A run which currently is Incorrect."

In your opinion. If something is wrong with it, you should have directly attempted to contact the moderator of the game to explain the situation and issue originally.

"The game has been out for 3 months and there is only 1 run and leaderboard which has been set up wrong."

The length of time a game has been released has nothing to do with the boards moderation. See my above reply for the rest of that answer.

"This is even more evident considering the single category and the only run in the Trials Rising section currently is an Illegal run because it uses content from a DLC patch 2 months into the game."

Again, did you read my above comment about talking to the super moderator about it "originally"? By now, you have but at the time you did not.

"Any% Is base game content. What was available day 1 of the games release."

Again, this has nothing to do with the request.

"I had every reason to make a post here."

No actually you did not. The first thing you did was come straight here and demand us to add you and the entire Trials moderation mods to the game because they didn't like what Jammy was doing and did not make an attempt to reach out or talk to them, something that did not happen until you had already posted here. At the same time, if we had manually added all of you, Jammy would be coming here to complain that we added a bunch of unknown users to the game and making alterations without him possibly knowing.

"Trials Games havent changed much in their structure over the years and don't have clear timing points for categories and category guidelines."

....You can see why I posted two of the Trials games and pointing out how those couple of games are being neglected. You wanted to alter rules on this game....didn't want to set any for the existing games....this is a red flag.

"Which is why Mod experience from past games is very beneficial."

Every game is different and mod experience from different games to another game makes zero sense. That is saying a moderator of Super Mario 64 is going to fit in just fine with Super Mario Galaxy.

chocolatecake5000chocolatecake5000 and ImaproshamanImaproshaman like this. 
  LivLiv

@teeny Done.

@shadoweh91 I'll make an attempt to reach out to them via Twitch whisper, if they don't get back to me in a couple days I can add you to the game due to mod inactivity / runs pending.

Concerning the above situation, I will just say there being 'no interest' in a board / game is a pretty poor reason for not including a ruleset. As a moderator it's your job to lay out the rules, and rules being totally left undefined on multiple games is a bad sign in a situation where the main reasoning for wanting to be granted moderator on an additional, separate game within that same series, is to clear up rulesets. Having the ruleset written out is important for reasons other than things like timing rules being clear, it prevents moderators from bending rules whenever they feel like it.

I would almost encourage some line of code on the site in future that would regularly notify moderators for games with an undefined ruleset to write a ruleset.

zewingzewing, fepnascimentofepnascimento and 2 others like this. 
  TheBlazeJpTheBlazeJp

@Dangerless
I didn't demand. Again you seem to like taking my words to extremes.
I asked which is very different and gave my reasonings for the request.

The reasons being that there are categories needing to be added. And that the current set up for Any% isn't Any%. You may think that is opinion based.
And yes perhaps my first action should of been to message the Mod, but given he hasn't Moderated before and has already set up an Any% with DLC included that is why I decided to first post here. If you feel that was an error on my behalf then ok.

Demanding would be exactly that. Demanding without giving reason.

Again to reply on the comment of 2 games in the Trials series being "neglected". 99% of Trials runs submitted here in the past 5 years have been to Blood Dragon and Fusion. They have been the active leaderboards which is why they have had rulesets and guidelines given. Nothing has been neglected. One of the two you mention is 4 years old and only had me submit a run, and in those 4 years since not a single person showed interest or desire to run it. Nothing has been neglected. Having said that I will happily add rulesets for the games you question.

"Because I didn't like what Jammy had set up"
Id like to point out this is the 5th time I've been labelled as doing something I didn't do or say.
I never said I didn't like what he has done, I pointed out why there is a problem. Not that I was in any way unappreciative or disliking to what he has tried to set up.

Why doesn't mod experiecence from past games make sense? How well do you know Trials?

Two Mario games are vastly different to eachother.
So that makes perfect sense in why one mod for one isn't necessarily beneficial to the other as you say.
The same cant be said about Trials games because they are almost identical In their structure and gameplay from title to title.

 
  DangerlessDangerless

Future postings from you will result in deletion, you seem to be refusing to acknowledge anything we've got to say at this point about the "issue" and the "issue" has long since been resolved.

ImaproshamanImaproshaman, DelnDeln and BigBoiRacoonixBigBoiRacoonix like this. 
  BigBoiRacoonixBigBoiRacoonix

This is a really helpfull thread when it comes to serie moderation

ImaproshamanImaproshaman likes this. 
  Invive322Invive322

Hello Everyone! My name is Invive322 and I set the world record for the game Farm Frenzy 1 ( https://www.speedrun.com/ff_1 ).
Link to the run
I noticed that the moderator was not active for more than 6 months. His twitter was deleted, and he showed no activity on any other services. I believe that he will not be able to verify my race. Help me please. I can not even contact him.
Thank you, greetings from Russia!

chocolatecake5000chocolatecake5000 likes this. 
  FlynntendoFlynntendo

Hello, I would like to request mod for the game Boring Man - Online Tactical Stickman Combat, reason being that the verifiers and one super mod have not been online for a heavy amount of time and have not been verifying any of the submitted runs. My run has been in verification queue for almost 3 months by now.

Thanks in advance.

To add extra details, the last staff of the game online was about a month ago, but it averages to about 2 - 3 months, some not being online this year.

Invive322Invive322 likes this. 
  SophaSopha

Hi. I'm the only active mod for GAME OF THE YEAR: 420BLAZEIT (wow/10 #rekt edition). The current super mod was hard to reach through twitter the first time and now his twitter is down. I tried contacting him through youtube 3 weeks ago with no response. I request to be made super mod so I can add as mod the guy who got WR last 4/20.

Invive322Invive322 likes this. 
  AradijeAradije

Hello.
Can someone just verify or reject my minesweeper run?

chocolatecake5000chocolatecake5000 and Invive322Invive322 like this. 
  DangerlessDangerless

@Invive322 Removed the old moderator and replaced them with you.

@Flynntendo https://twitter.com/SpasmanGames - Contact the Super Mod here, they appear active on twitter.

@Sopha Removed and added you as Super Mod.

@Aradije Post your problem under the Minesweeper forum of the game.

Invive322Invive322 likes this. 
  afnannen136afnannen136

hi so i've had a run pending for almost 3 weeks in Google Doodle Chinese New Year 2013, their are 2 moderators, 1 hasn"t been online in 3 years the other in 3 months, neither of which have any contact information

AradijeAradije and Invive322Invive322 like this.