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  ZeDoctorZeDoctor

Hello

I've submitted a run for the game https://www.speedrun.com/Titanic_Adventure_Out_of_Time/ . After telling a friend, who's been speedruning for a long time, he told me that the mod probably won't answer and I'd have to ask someone here. The current mod hasn't been online for 9 months and he doesn't have any social accounts linked on his profile.

If I should wait for a longer time that's fine. 🙂

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  Otterstone_GamerOtterstone_Gamer

Hi I submitted a run for SeppuKuties and I recently just noticed that the game has no moderators at all. I would like to become moderator of SeppuKuties so the run can be verified. Game link is right here https://www.speedrun.com/SeppuKuties

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  FinalflameFinalflame

Hello. I'd like to request mod for Sonic Eraser https://www.speedrun.com/Sonic_Eraser . Recently myself and a few other people routed the game and have begun doing runs of it (mine is now pending). The current mod that requested the board over 2 months ago has not logged on since or posted any runs of his own. He does not have a twitter that I can contact him on and has not posted any related content on his youtube (I check for anything Eraser related).

 
  OddGodGamerOddGodGamer

Hello, I would like to request to become a moderator for Trickstyle (dreamcast and PC) https://www.speedrun.com/TrickStyle They guy hasnt been on in almost a year and there are NO runs. His profile is here https://www.speedrun.com/user/shooprlb/info he also has no twitter or twitch so I cannot contact him

 
  SlevanasSlevanas

Hi I would like to become series mod for Killer Instinct. I talked with one of the previous mods for Killer Instinct 2013 and he said it was fine and to request it.

 
  stoicrosestoicrose

Hello, I'd like to request moderator for Tomodachi Collection. Both moderators are fairly inactive, and it's been about a week since i submitted a World Record for 100 Miis. Ive tried to contact IanAC, the more recently online moderator through both Discord and Twitch, but I still haven't heard back.

 
  TheBlazeJpTheBlazeJp

@Dangerless
I don't understand why you think we have hostile intentions.
We have moderated the Trials Games for 5 years
Everyone in the trials community always comes to me or Vantier or Sandholm when they have questions about how to speedrun Trials, there is no dictatorship. It is community decided on how rules of the previous game were set out. Not 1 person defining everything or just wanting to "grab a board" or "make up rules" as you say? - We have always discussed timing/completion rules as a group and then set them up.
Trials Evoluton Gold had no rules because the game only ever had myself do speedruns. There was never the need to post rules because nobody else got into it or showed interest in that board. Trials Evo had no rules because It wasn't on PC, You can't reset your save file to 0% so I personally never invested time into it, other than reviewing runs over the years. Fusion and Blood Dragon however have had multiple guidelines and timing rulesets places on each category over the years by us.

Also you say I don't run the game? - Whilst it is true I am yet to post a run this is only because I have been practicing each individual level since the release of the game. Which again is only 3 months old, before I head into full game speedruns. Thats how I have always done it with trials games. Instead of rushing into a fullgame speedrun. Each track has had multiple timesavers discovered over the initial few months, and it is for that reason I don't rush into the category runs. Because ultimately it wouldn't be beneficial in the long run for optimal gameplay on each individual IL of a category speedrun.
Trials Is a Game that has speedruns on each level, each individual track is time based. I actively stream the game for 7 hours or more each day. I have 444 hours in 2.5 months played. so It's safe to say I run it.
The game is now at a point where I am comfortable in doing categories with most Individual tracks being optimised. Of which there are 122 seperate levels which is why there isn't many runs currently submitted on a 4 hour speedrun because as mentioned the game has been in a discovery period. Once I stream it, It will see a boom of people submitting runs as with the last Trials Game. (Fusion)
I will be doing full runs starting next week.

I have contacted Jammy but am yet to hear back, his last stream was 7 days ago. I wasn't asking for him to be removed, Considering the history I didn't think it was an unreasonable request.
I wouldn't however think it was much to ask to add me to the super mod list of the game so I can at least place guidelines and timing rules for each category because currently there is none for Platinum% and Ninja% which I would like to add and it is needed so that new players don't get confused. I have already been approached by a few players asking me how to time these runs because there is no clear end point in the game for them and the guide section is in desperate need of clear input for that. I would like to add the categories with the accompanying text so it is clear for people who want to run them.

@Liv Actually there is an issue currently.
There is also a slight issue with the current Any%
The WR run on any% Downloadable Content tracks that aren't in the base game are used.
Any% has always been base game only. So under global Any% Rules the run is invalid

Filters can be used in game to avoid playing the DLC Tracks for normal "Any%"

The Category his video is in needs to be renamed to Any% w/ DLC

Update:
Jammy got back to me, We are discussing tweaks.

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  DaravaeDaravae

@ZeDoctor Info seems accurate. Added.

@Otterstone_Gamer Okay, Added.

@Finalflame Had a talk with the series moderator about this game and all seems accurate. Added.

@OddGodGamer Do you have a run pending or what is your motivation? You also seem to only have one social linked which is YouTube. Kindly add at least one more. Preferably Twitter or Discord so users can properly contact you.

@Slevanas Mod seems inactive for 3 years. I added you. There seems to be a run or two in the queue. Kindly take care of them.

@sto1crose IanAC was online 10 days ago. He even replied back to your forum post. Please allow a period of at least 3 weeks for your run to get verified. This thread is a last resort.

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  teenyteeny

requesting mod for johnny 3 and johnny 4 as the moderator for both games has been offline for a year
https://www.speedrun.com/j3
https://www.speedrun.com/johnny4

 
  DangerlessDangerless

@TheBlazeJp Not interested in a rant and my opinion still stands, what Jammy decides to do is his own choice. Series mods do not "own" other game leaderboards within its series and do not get special privileges so where we stand on this hasn't/won't change.

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  shadoweh91shadoweh91

Hi I'm requesting to have myself and https://www.speedrun.com/user/Tagerplayer to be a moderator for Duel Masters. Reason being my Duel Masters run was submitted in early April as shown here: https://www.speedrun.com/Duel_Masters/run/m7p477wm and the one and only moderator has not responded to me. I would like to make Tagerplayer a moderator as well because he is a friend of mine that plans on doing a run in the future and I don't feel comfortable verifying my own run. Thank you for taking the time and consideration to read this message. Duel Masters Leaderboard page: https://www.speedrun.com/Duel_Masters

 
  TheBlazeJpTheBlazeJp

Thanks for that @Dangerless
Not sure where I put anywhere that I want "special privileges" or to "own" a board or to "make up rules" for a game "I dont run" with 450 hours in.
You say you want to avoid a rant but seem quick to throw those at me which isn't very nice and couldn't be more from how it is.

Been nothing but respectful and civil explaining how as a community we discuss things. I have given just reasoning to everything you questioned.

I created my Initial post because Jammys current Any% Wr Run is Illegal and not Any% but a seperate category because it uses tracks not in the "Base Game".
And we felt that the leaderboards are in need of mods with years of experience setting them up to adress this and setting up the other categories for the community who have sent me questions on how they run them.

I'm not going to say anymore. Apparently I'm being treated like I have done something wrong which puzzles me.

Jammy has got back to me and we are discussing things today so I'm going to leave it there.

 
  DangerlessDangerless

@TheBlazeJp I disagree with much of what you say and this has to do with how series mods tend to think as a whole, Jammy has gotten back to you and whatever he decides is okay by us seeing as how the state of the board was, actually fine. A leaderboard is not defined by what series mods think and I think that is something you may might to consider when trying to enforce future decisions on games none of you moderated in the first place, which again the first thing you should've actually done was talk the Super Mod about the game and I assume the others felt no need to wanting to do so as well but decided to just request (or enforce) all of you to just get assigned it.

You can see the outliner where it looks bad, even if it isn't your intent, it is what it appears to be to us. I personally don't care for the rant or the excuse being provided, I'm pointing out where it was unfair to Jammy and the original request. This had less to do about "you" and more to do with the "request/decision" made here when posted.

Also; "I created my Initial post because Jammys current Any% Wr Run is Illegal and not Any% but a seperate category because it uses tracks not in the "Base Game". That was your opinion, not literal fact. A leaderboard is setup to however its moderators feel it should be set up and if something is wrong/unfair/etc then it should be directed to the games leaderboard moderators with making amendments or potential changes. I also provided how two games in the series modded by Trials don't even have rule defined. No offense, but what you are saying here is pretty bent backwards.

In short, again, what Jammy does is up to him and

 
  TheBlazeJpTheBlazeJp

A game non of us have moderated?
Nobody has moderated it. There is 1 run.

A run which currently is Incorrect.

The game has been out for 3 months and there is only 1 run and leaderboard which has been set up wrong.

Trials Games are complex to set up guidlines and timing rules for.

This is even more evident considering the single category and the only run in the Trials Rising section currently is an Illegal run because it uses content from a DLC patch 2 months into the game.

Any% Is base game content. What was available day 1 of the games release.

It's not just my opinion, that is how it is. Dlc is used in the current run of Any% and that is wrong.

I had every reason to make a post here.

Trials Games havent changed much in their structure over the years and don't have obvious timing points for categories and category guidelines.

Which is why Mod experience from past games is very beneficial.

 
  DangerlessDangerless

@TheBlazeJp This is the last time I am going to address your post and I will break it down.

"A game non of us have moderated? Nobody has moderated it. There is 1 run."

Yes, none of you moderated it and it had one user that moderates it that is not part of your series moderation.

"A run which currently is Incorrect."

In your opinion. If something is wrong with it, you should have directly attempted to contact the moderator of the game to explain the situation and issue originally.

"The game has been out for 3 months and there is only 1 run and leaderboard which has been set up wrong."

The length of time a game has been released has nothing to do with the boards moderation. See my above reply for the rest of that answer.

"This is even more evident considering the single category and the only run in the Trials Rising section currently is an Illegal run because it uses content from a DLC patch 2 months into the game."

Again, did you read my above comment about talking to the super moderator about it "originally"? By now, you have but at the time you did not.

"Any% Is base game content. What was available day 1 of the games release."

Again, this has nothing to do with the request.

"I had every reason to make a post here."

No actually you did not. The first thing you did was come straight here and demand us to add you and the entire Trials moderation mods to the game because they didn't like what Jammy was doing and did not make an attempt to reach out or talk to them, something that did not happen until you had already posted here. At the same time, if we had manually added all of you, Jammy would be coming here to complain that we added a bunch of unknown users to the game and making alterations without him possibly knowing.

"Trials Games havent changed much in their structure over the years and don't have clear timing points for categories and category guidelines."

....You can see why I posted two of the Trials games and pointing out how those couple of games are being neglected. You wanted to alter rules on this game....didn't want to set any for the existing games....this is a red flag.

"Which is why Mod experience from past games is very beneficial."

Every game is different and mod experience from different games to another game makes zero sense. That is saying a moderator of Super Mario 64 is going to fit in just fine with Super Mario Galaxy.

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  LivLiv

@teeny Done.

@shadoweh91 I'll make an attempt to reach out to them via Twitch whisper, if they don't get back to me in a couple days I can add you to the game due to mod inactivity / runs pending.

Concerning the above situation, I will just say there being 'no interest' in a board / game is a pretty poor reason for not including a ruleset. As a moderator it's your job to lay out the rules, and rules being totally left undefined on multiple games is a bad sign in a situation where the main reasoning for wanting to be granted moderator on an additional, separate game within that same series, is to clear up rulesets. Having the ruleset written out is important for reasons other than things like timing rules being clear, it prevents moderators from bending rules whenever they feel like it.

I would almost encourage some line of code on the site in future that would regularly notify moderators for games with an undefined ruleset to write a ruleset.

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  TheBlazeJpTheBlazeJp

@Dangerless
I didn't demand. Again you seem to like taking my words to extremes.
I asked which is very different and gave my reasonings for the request.

The reasons being that there are categories needing to be added. And that the current set up for Any% isn't Any%. You may think that is opinion based.
And yes perhaps my first action should of been to message the Mod, but given he hasn't Moderated before and has already set up an Any% with DLC included that is why I decided to first post here. If you feel that was an error on my behalf then ok.

Demanding would be exactly that. Demanding without giving reason.

Again to reply on the comment of 2 games in the Trials series being "neglected". 99% of Trials runs submitted here in the past 5 years have been to Blood Dragon and Fusion. They have been the active leaderboards which is why they have had rulesets and guidelines given. Nothing has been neglected. One of the two you mention is 4 years old and only had me submit a run, and in those 4 years since not a single person showed interest or desire to run it. Nothing has been neglected. Having said that I will happily add rulesets for the games you question.

"Because I didn't like what Jammy had set up"
Id like to point out this is the 5th time I've been labelled as doing something I didn't do or say.
I never said I didn't like what he has done, I pointed out why there is a problem. Not that I was in any way unappreciative or disliking to what he has tried to set up.

Why doesn't mod experiecence from past games make sense? How well do you know Trials?

Two Mario games are vastly different to eachother.
So that makes perfect sense in why one mod for one isn't necessarily beneficial to the other as you say.
The same cant be said about Trials games because they are almost identical In their structure and gameplay from title to title.

 
  DangerlessDangerless

Future postings from you will result in deletion, you seem to be refusing to acknowledge anything we've got to say at this point about the "issue" and the "issue" has long since been resolved.

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  BigBoiRacoonixBigBoiRacoonix

This is a really helpfull thread when it comes to serie moderation

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