This is not new. The infinite flutter messes with the death plane there.

You can always try ebay. There's plenty of JP imports of all sorts of games. That's where I got my copy.

Okay, so the past few weeks, the SMG mods having been testing loads time with non disc channel loaders. We have come to the conclusion that Gecko does not change loads compared to just loading the disc from disc channel, however, the program called Neogamma does shorten loads, effectively modifying the disc. Unfortunately, the mods have decided that we are banning Neogamma, which means that Korean can not be played. Korean can not be loaded through Gecko, and you can not order a Korean Wii because it does not get through customs. We will be removing all Korean times on the leaderboard. Fortunately, not many runners use Korean, but this is a warning that if you are going to order a foreign copy, get the Japanese version. I will leave a link to a spreadsheet Yoshifan made about these loads if you are curious about some testing that was done. We apologize to the few runners that are using Korean, but we know you can beat your times with another version, so if you really want a more accurate time, you're welcome to run on a different version. Yoshifan's Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/178cRnPLYlJc5nNz8FpLbkVuMuIQFC-U2RGZ665Lk5WY/edit#gid=0

Yes, for sure

Never mind, I was able to find it.

Is there by chance a Sonic 06 discord server? I'm thinking of running the game, (either Sonic or Silver) and I'm wondering if there's a server where I can get help. If the skype group is still active, I would also be okay with that.

Actually, I just remembered. I thought that maybe I'd share Vallu's opinion. He also is not opposed to a split, although I don't know the exact details. Just in case this could help my argument. 🙂

Okay. I've argued my point, and I have nothing else to say. If anyone wants to contribute to the split then I may start arguing again.

That's true

Fair points, for not splitting them, I can agree to that. I'll argue a bit more, but forgive me if I am unable to word everything correctly. I don't think that 2P would be considered a meme category, but I can definitely see where that opinion is coming from. I think separating them would make 2P runs a bit more popular, which in turn would make them not look as bad to newcomer's eyes. As stated before, a category split would also decrease these types of arguments, as they would officially be considered separate.

Now, I'm not trying to be an insensitive jerk in my next comment, but most of the opinions on 2P in this post come from people who don't run the game, and while matter a little bit, I think an opinion is more valued when you've spent time in the subject you're arguing about.

A good comparison may be to Hoverless and normal any% in SMS, ShadowLugia. The two runs have the same objective, but have differences in how they play, making one of them more difficult. Of course, SMG isn't SMS, but that's the best comparison I could find.

Basically what Marc said. Most people consider them separate anyways, so it would also end these types of arguments, some of which I have regrettably participated in. Addressing the 10 categories issue, I doubt that matters much. The leaderboard would still look clean, as long as 1P and 2P were made as sub categories, and having more categories doesn't really have a downside does it?

So, I am curious how many people would be open to a 1P and 2P split on the leaderboard. Not because one is better than the other, but so people can run both. As far as I'm aware, most people consider them separate, and wouldn't mind them having different leaderboards.
If we were to split it, I think the way it would work is we'd go back to the original 5 categories, then make 1P and 2P sub categories.