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Forum: The Site

Thread: Requesting series/game types for existing games

Started by: Lighnat0rLighnat0r

Ah, got it Liv. I'm blind. Thank you.

 

Forum: Left 4 Dead 2

Thread: Master's Corner: leaderboard changelogs

Started by: TheMasterTheMaster

November 3rd 2018,

Created a new game in the series for category extensions which you can see at speedrun.com/l4d2_ce

As of writing there aren't any categories or runs migrated there yet, but pretty much anything here that is custom content or isn't "legitimate" to the base game will be moved over there.

 

Forum: The Site

Thread: Requesting series/game types for existing games

Started by: Lighnat0rLighnat0r

Thanks! I do see now that it doesn't show on the series page unless game type in the bottom-left is set to "or" instead of "and" which seems kind of obscure. Is there any way around this so it shows more easily on the series page?

 

Forum: The Site

Thread: Requesting series/game types for existing games

Started by: Lighnat0rLighnat0r

Hello, just created a category extension game for Left 4 Dead 2 to clean up the main pages and would like the appropriate tag added,

https://www.speedrun.com/l4d2_ce

 

Forum: Left 4 Dead 2

Thread: Survival records?

Started by: scoot404scoot404

As bill mentioned, there are already Survival records tracked which was one reason for not including them here. I asked about it in our Discord to get information from somebody that knew more about the active groups and here's a copy/paste of what he said for you if you want to check them out,

There's 3 main leaderboards for survival;

Vanilla/Standard survival, where we have a steam group for full team records:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/l4dsurvivalgroup

A seperate group for solo and duo survival records in vanilla:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/SDSvR

Fixed survival, which fixes what valve messed up, basically "competetive survival", includes full team, trio, duo, and solo leaderboards:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/fixedsurvival

Thanks to JAiZ for the info!

 

Forum: The Site

Thread: Leaderboards moderation requests thread

Started by: GyooGyoo

Left 4 Dead 2 mod here, https://www.speedrun.com/l4d2

Looking for the removal of "blackwayv" as moderator to clean up the list a bit. He hasn't logged in to the site for a year now and last I attempted to contact him both by Twitch message and whisper while he was actively streaming Fallout casually, I received no response or acknowledgement at all. I waited far longer than I should have to post this, probably, but with us expanding modship with some more verifiers just now it's definitely time.

 

Forum: Left 4 Dead 2

Thread: Section for mutation modes?

Started by: MunchiesMunchies

Indeed, at one point LMOE existed but it's essentially solo with everything interesting about the run removed. The fact that it existed was a bit arbitrary (why that mutation over any others?) and nobody seemed to actually think it added something to the game or was interesting. Some (like me) dubbed it a walking simulator, so it was replaced by the custom Blastoff mutation which fundamentally changes movement in the game.

Currently, there are no plans to add it back nor other mutations, besides Dash which I put up the Christmas before last. That's pretty interesting. Likely from this point there will not be any more category expansion (besides a Custom Campaigns Full-Game category) as there isn't enough activiy to support more and there really isn't anything else that'd be too justified to go up.

 

Forum: Left 4 Dead 2

Thread: Master's Corner: leaderboard changelogs

Started by: TheMasterTheMaster

March 28th 2018,

Changed run obsoletion setting to "match any, any order" which now means that any run in which each individual player has a better PB than it, regardless of their player roster being different or not, will be obsoleted, which makes the leaderboards much cleaner now. Runs will only show if it is the PB of at least one of the runners involved.

 

Forum: Left 4 Dead 2

Thread: Tricks/glitches that can still be performed in the latest version?

Started by: dillpickledillpickle

There are also some skips that they attempted to patch and did it poorly so there are still workarounds. Examples of that is the Dead Center 1 window skip near the beginning that just requires a different technique, and Dark Carnival 3 coaster skip which requires a couple of different jumps to do the same thing. A Parish 2 fence at the crescendo was blocked so you can't go over it in solo, but you can still abuse warping to get through it in co-op.

 

Forum: Left 4 Dead 2

Thread: Master's Corner: leaderboard changelogs

Started by: TheMasterTheMaster

February 10th 2018,

Added the command "report_entities" to the banned commands list. This command which looks to be server-only prints a complete list of all spawned items in the level which could enable you to know if something useful has spawned or not so you can save time not bothering to look for it. It was also made cheat-protected at some point as 2.0.2.7 allows it, but newest does not.

 

Forum: Minigolf

Thread: So, er, what are the rules?

Started by: TheMasterTheMaster

All that exists is "All Courses" with no defined rules. Should we set up categories for each individual theme like Ball Race?

 

Forum: Ball Race

Thread: The current Prism record

Started by: TheMasterTheMaster

You can try OBS using the NVENC encoder, which is what Shadowplay uses (it runs on a dedicated chip on your GPU, not your CPU). You might be freezing because Shadowplay is recording at a crazy bitrate, you can try setting it to 10000 for great quality or even as low as, say, 5000 in OBS and it'll still look fine. You'll probably want to set it to downscale to 1280 x 720 as well. There's a good chance this will fix your issues.

Good luck!

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Forum: Ball Race

Thread: The current Prism record

Started by: TheMasterTheMaster

Yeah, I wasn't really accusing him of cheating. It's simply that all runs, regardless of who it is submitting them, should be held to the same submission standards, and any other person submitting would most certainly not have a video like that verified. I get a bit bothered when mods accept their own runs with problems like that just because they can, I was involved in another leaderboard a while back that had the same issue where mods were accepting their own runs without video proof even though it was a requirement. Yikes!

Anyway, good job to the mods in this thread and in fixing up the rules!

On to the conversation of launches that just spurred up...

I'll be referring to getting stuck between a moving platform and a wall to get launched as "stucklaunch(ing)" because I used to run Marble Blast Ultra way back in the day and it had an identical trick by that name. Good times...

I was doing Summit runs for a while yesterday and for the life of me could not get a powerful enough stucklaunch on level 9 first try. I looked into it deeper after eventually giving up for the day and figured out some pretty depressing things...

First, the FPS definitely seems to influence the strength of the launch. I go flying every time on 240+, with 100 or more FPS lower it is considerably less the majority of the time. Now we hit the real problem, the game has some sort of FPS capping bug?? I noticed that much of the time my FPS was seemingly capped around 142 while I was using input, and I could never get the stucklaunch to be powerful enough while it is like this. It randomly uncaps back to a proper 200+ when it feels like it and the launches were fantastic then. What in the world is causing that? I tried a lot of things, messing with Nvidia Control Panel settings, tweaking the in-game graphical settings every which way, nothing seemed to influence it. I did think today to change my refresh rate (I'm on 144hz) since it's suspiciously close to where the game is capping itself, just haven't gotten to it yet. No idea what else to try if that doesn't work, and I'm going to give up on doing the stucklaunch in runs because of this because I really don't feel like rolling for framerate RNG...

EDIT: I tried a 60hz refresh rate and it didn't change a thing. 🙁

 

Forum: Ball Race

Thread: The current Prism record

Started by: TheMasterTheMaster

What's going on with that video? It has a lot of jumping around about 6:40 into it where levels could have easily been skipped and it seems like deaths happened at some point but it's impossible to tell.

It doesn't seem right that a run can be submitted with a video that is impossible to verify with.

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Forum: Left 4 Dead

Thread: difference between all and original

Started by: DrevosDrevos

Yup, it's basically a difference of running "how the game launched" to "the final state of the game".

If you end up wanting to run the Original Campaigns category it is highly recommended you grab version 1.0 of the game since it has some important extra skips, you can find it in the #resources channel of the speedrunning discord linked in this thread, https://www.speedrun.com/l4d/thread/8pqqt

All Campaigns can be run on the newest Steam version just fine.

 

Forum: Left 4 Dead 2

Thread: Glitchless?

Started by: LegLeg

As mentioned, it is impossible to define clearly enough what is or isn't a glitch. Would we allow bhops or not? Tank boosts? Idle warping? The last two are absolutely intended behavior that are just abused. It would also make the runs very straightforward and uninteresting since it's just running from point A to B while trying not to get hit or specialed which is already what happens. Co-op would be Solo plus three other people suiciding each map, and hardly anything additional would be played in the maps in Solo since the really big skips are all Co-op.

I see glitchless more as a solution for games which have absolutely massive skips or sequence breaking that bypass large portions of a game entirely, meaning that the only way to run through all of the game's content is to have a category that disallows skipping it. That isn't the case in L4D where we still experience almost all of the content, only some parts are skipped in Co-op with GL boosts.

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Forum: Left 4 Dead

Thread: Make Solo/Co-op Subcategories

Started by: Cyberdemon531Cyberdemon531

I am doing my job, thanks, and I have done many, many magnitudes of things across both boards over the year+ I have been a moderator and I continue to make changes as they are needed. Just because I don't immediately jump on your demand does not mean I am not doing my job as doing my job doesn't entail exclusively pleasing you and a more than fair compromise has been laid out. Please also do not insert words into my mouth, I did not ask for a single casual playthrough that was done four months ago, to quote the post in question,

"If a bunch of runs pop up across the various categories that are on Expert exclusively, I can make a new subcategory for it and shift them over to there. Otherwise it will stay as-is, so do understand it's possible your Expert run might remain on the boards as it currently looks if there isn't sufficient activity."

That is far from asking "for a run". The category will still happen with sufficient activity, it is not being added right now because people tend to say they will do something and then never follow through with it which will cause new categories to be up empty for no reason. I am not going to let that happen, so we're waiting to see the activity first. I care quite a lot about these boards and have done far more than what is required of me to try and be accomodating and courteous, taking quite a bit of time to write these responses, but this is clearly turning into a very unnecessary and angry environment and your accusations are not at all appreciated.

This thread is being locked and the existing offer will continue to stand if anybody would like to submit runs. Once again, it requires no extra work on your part, I can shift them over myself. All you need to do is submit like you were going to. It is my promise that this category will exist given enough activity.

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Forum: Left 4 Dead

Thread: Make Solo/Co-op Subcategories

Started by: Cyberdemon531Cyberdemon531

Dead on arrival categories will not be added in an already dead game unless sufficient activity has been shown. I don't expect that to happen because the game is dead, and the only ones asking for it are inactive runners who have little to no existing runs, with the active runners not showing interest in it. It is therefore perfectly reasonable to confirm enough interest before making changes or additions.

The plan has been laid out already and will be how it goes. This is my final post on the matter.

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Forum: Left 4 Dead

Thread: Make Solo/Co-op Subcategories

Started by: Cyberdemon531Cyberdemon531

I care and the active community cares quite a bit. You can't "make somebody else do a better run", you're the one(s) wanting the category up in a dead game. It is up to you to show enough interest in populating it with actual speedruns to make it a worthwhile edition, and so far we are far from that with a casual playthrough done four months ago and two other runs done a year ago (and then a recent Blood Harvest, which is finally a good start).

Once again, I am not going to put a category up because you're demanding I do so as you don't speak for the entire active community until you become part of it. Either participate with your interest or don't.

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Forum: Left 4 Dead

Thread: Make Solo/Co-op Subcategories

Started by: Cyberdemon531Cyberdemon531

Hey, been very busy lately with the Christmas season looming but I'm getting to some submissions now.

Cyberdemon... are you sure that Original Campaigns Solo on Expert in over 4 hours is what you want to put forward? I mean... it's actually a casual playthrough with bots, it isn't at all a speedrun of the game. I'm just saying, this doesn't seem like a good place for it (again, it's actually a casual play) and I want to make sure before taking the time to verify it.

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