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Forum: The Site

Thread: Leaderboards moderation requests thread

Started by: GyooGyoo

Can I get a mod for Bloodrayne? http://www.speedrun.com/BloodRayne
The only mod doesn't seem to run anything, also doesn't seem active to me.

 

Forum: Doom 3

Thread: ImFuryPro's run

Started by: EwilEwil

I was thinking that DraQu might be a good mod for d3, since he picked it up not long time ago and was streaming for quite some time

 

Forum: Serious Sam

Thread: LBs rework is coming!

Started by: Tezur0Tezur0

So I was thinking of the best way to define segmented runs, also was thinking of overall quality of LBs and found a perfect solution for it, which, after lotsa thinking, seems to make a lot of sense.

Since speedrun.com kinda supports subcategories (I once said that it doesn't but apparently something like this http://www.speedrun.com/sms#Any1 exists) - all difficulty levels will be put on a lower level as subcategories and top categories will look like any%, any% coop and ILRush. And if I have to donate something for that - I probably will, unless the price is obnoxious (I have no idea how to actually create subcategories right now).

Now to topcategories:
Any% is still same thing, you have to record your FULL run of a game from start to end, all loadings/saves must be included, if your game dies and you decide to continue - you include that in a VoD and it counts towords final time (not gonna really go through rules now, since everyone but ImFuryPro suits them).

Coop stays same - the only thing that gets changed - amount of players goes as a variable.

Now to ILRush - that's something I was really considering for a long time as of how to better name it or pull it off. So first - name "ILRush" basically goes from the fact that in every stage you get a certain ammo/weapon/health pool which you start with, and I could basically just name any% like that, but then the rule of "run must be recorded from the beginning to end" sounds arbitrary as hell.

So this is basically a segmented category where you do all ILs as fast as you can with no restrictions - so it is, technically a faster category than any%, but it is not named any% because you can split your run and complete parts at a different time - (do ILs and submit IL compilation).

I do remember that we have a IL leaderboards, but this is mostly done because of ImFuryPro, whose runs are segmented. I haven't though of any reason why someone else would do a segmented run of IL based game, though I though it is pretty reasonable to make an IL compilation, to not make people go through every single of small VoDs (which you probably still would have).

So basically that means that your "ILRush" is basically your compilation of all ILs, but WITHOUT a restriction that a every single IL must be a full recording (which is the case for ILs).
So it is kinda misc, and it will be in misc, but it sounds reasonable, it fits game.

Gonna leave that post for a time being - share your thoughts if you care. I will try to respond to any idea you have.

 

Forum: Doom 3

Thread: ImFuryPro's run

Started by: EwilEwil

I am pretty sure that most of people check some things in runs and not watch the entirety of it.
That's what makes verification process faster and better comparing to SDA.
Sometimes a run is lying there for weeks without verification. I normally don't touch stuff I have no idea about (or don't care much) - as doom 3 speedrun for me - and I just briefly check if it looks fine (after that long awaiting time). There is just no dedicated mod for Doom 3, but there are global doom mods.

For big communities I don't think that is a problem at all - there is always someone on stream for WR holders and such, who can afterwards prove that run is legit. As for non-WR holders - they might not even care, if it is some 60 place on leaderboard - it doesn't matter if he segmented this run or not.
And last thing - stream is much easier to check/trust, unlike YT vods or other things. That's why timer often is a requirement, so that you can check, that run is not segmented. Of cource you can bypass that by doing another video of your run but now with timer - if some really wants to tryhard for fake WR - I pity him.
I'm normally trustful to people and if they neglect it - then I stop that trust for a very long time. It really is just a matter of trust tbh. If someone is new to a thing and tries to be smartass - once truth is revealed he is gonna have a hard time pulling something like that again.

 

Forum: Doom 3

Thread: ImFuryPro's run

Started by: EwilEwil

Yeah it's sort of situation, which noone expected tbh.
I normally go through runs a bit more closely if they are YT only with no splits or voice over the video.
But looking through entire run - I most of time can't afford something like that. Also normally when person provides a lot of stats I suppose it is correct. But with ImFuryPro it was just wrond understanding of Single-Segment thing, which turned into mess.
There is noone to blame, really, neither those who showed him this website, nor him for understanding it wrong.

 

Forum: ESA 2016

Thread: Copenhagen accomadation for 1 day/night.

Started by: Tezur0Tezur0

yeah, I've been searching for alternatives such as couchsurfing or flat for 1 day, just thought that if someone is living there and might be willing to help then it would've been amasing 🙂

 

Forum: ESA 2016

Thread: Copenhagen accomadation for 1 day/night.

Started by: Tezur0Tezur0

Guys, I have a question, does anyone of you live in Copenhagen, or has a place to stop for 1 day/night? I'm going with my gf and we want to look around Copenhagen, so we want to stay there for one day, but hotel is a bit expensive alternative for us at this moment, can someone let us stay for 1 night, we can help with housework/cooking in the evening. We estimate to arrive on 22nd, leave to Vaxjo on 23rd.

 

Forum: Doom 3

Thread: Submitting a run soon, question on rules?

Started by: TheMasterTheMaster

If you cut something from your final video - it's segmented.
That's how it is even on SDA, single-segment is game beaten without using loadings, not video that looks like one game.
If you go for RTA you include all loadings and count them towards your final time.

 

Forum: Doom 3

Thread: ImFuryPro's run

Started by: EwilEwil

Segmented != single segment, YET Segmented != RTA.
Segmented is simply a run that is recorded at different times and then video is edited to look like one - that's segmented. Dying and loading during one run kills the fact of Single Segment (for some games it is not true though), but here we don't care if it is single segment or RTA. We care that it is not Segmented, which is different.
My YaE run is not Single-Segment, yet it is done in Real-Time and all fails count towords final time.

Also if you read main doom thread here on forum - it says that this all created to show RTA competition aspects. If more segmented runners appear, we might consider adding that as a category, but normally you just submit that to SDA, cause they are not leaderbords - just WR tracker (and very outdated, because of how slow they process runs). SO they will simply write something like "WR by X in XX:XX:XX done in X segments". Yet if you say that your run is not segmented they will write something like "WR by X in XX:XX:XX" and will change it to "done in X segments" if they will figure that it is segmented or even reject (such cases had place and runner had to resubmit his run with proper information).

Yet I might agree that just deleting instead of creating misc category and placing his run there was a bit harsh. Yet that's just because I had enough salt with that "Single-Segment" bad SDA definition.

 

Forum: Doom 3

Thread: ImFuryPro's run

Started by: EwilEwil

No, I stopped careing about him, I won't be adding segmented thing here.

 

Forum: Serious Sam

Thread: Subcategories?

Started by: EwilEwil

Nah, we won't delete segmented categories. I will figure the best solution.

 

Forum: ESA 2016

Thread: Pre-ESA Online Marathon - January 29th - 31st

Started by: EdenalEdenal

Me and Fatzke available 2PM-7PM CET on 30th and around 9AM-11AM CET and 3PM-5PM CET on 31st.

 

Forum: Serious Sam

Thread: Subcategories?

Started by: EwilEwil

If it was a feature to separate them in one table then yes sure, otherwise it is just bad presentation of what actually is RTA and what's segmented - people go to leaderboards and 98% of time they only look on first time there, they don't care if it is rta or segmented that is written in some column - that causes misunderstanding in forums/chats/youtube comments.

If you want to run segmented in a game that has ILs you should just do that instead, what ImFuryPro was doing is other thing - he just doesn't understand difference between single-segment speedrun and single-segment video (or he does understand and tries to look better than he is, but I have no idea if he is good or bad at a game, cause he haven't beaten any run legitemately so far).

So segmented stays segmented - moreover it should be in misc. RTA/SS in serious sam is enough of an arbitrary category to be honest, because you get refill on every stage. So it basically makes RTA/SS an IL rush. Doing segmented IL rush makes no sense, so we won't be doing that.

 

Forum: Doom 3

Thread: ImFuryPro's run

Started by: EwilEwil

ugh, thanks for a notice, gezz

 

Forum: ESA 2016

Thread: Pre-ESA Online Marathon - January 29th - 31st

Started by: EdenalEdenal

Game Name: Doom
System: PC
Category: UV-Speed ep1-2-3 (up for race)
Gameplay Estimate: 25 minutes
Sample run video:
Description: fun doom run, actually I just want it to be race, so be glad to reject if none else submittes

Game Name: Unreal
System: PC
Category: Easy any% (Race with Fatzke, he's UP for it - https://twitter.com/FatzkeFTW/status/685135813185789953)
Gameplay Estimate: 1 hour
Sample run video:
Description: unreal was shown by Fatzke at ESA last year, I'll try to make it a bit faster. Good strats, jumps and saveloadings.

 

Forum: Grand Theft Auto 2

Thread: Residential any% no EE-glitch - Route

Started by: MolotokMolotok

Nice, gonna try that stair jump, and go for sub 6 at least now 😃

 

Forum: Serious Sam

Thread: In-Game time

Started by: Tezur0Tezur0

Sure, but rule should state something like "if no saves/loads used during the run add both RTA and IGT, otherwise ONLY RTA"
Might change that by myself tomorrow or so, when I'm not on a phone 😃

 

Forum: Serious Sam: The Second Encounter

Thread: Fake run On Serious sam TFE/TSE

Started by: SeliaveSeliave

SDA haven't updated their rules ever since they were written, and actual misunderstandings already had place (yet rules were only fixed for 100% I believe), so you are not first, you are not last, that's alright. For the fact that rules here were incomplete - yeah, now I sort of realised that name "Single-segment" never stated a proper explanation of what that segment is, so yeah.

No worry, glad we actually managed to figure some solution without going as low as throwing stones at each other 😉

 

Forum: Serious Sam: The Second Encounter

Thread: Oob

Started by: Mr_LesrMr_Lesr

That's like the massive category of glithes where you leave the area that is designed to be your gameplay area and go look for weird stuff.
Pretty much what Ewil said.

 

Forum: Serious Sam: The Second Encounter

Thread: Fake run On Serious sam TFE/TSE

Started by: SeliaveSeliave

Don't want to insult ImFuryPro - runs are good, BUT they are not single-segment (don't state for our single-segment rules at least).
I'll change times, so that they are accurate (since I messed with them). Hope you understand.

Ewil - thanks for those IL tables - great job you are doing!
About HD - don't know, me and freezard were doing fine on those, guess no harm to it though.
About 2 - yeah sure.