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  Gwaiilo

what would be the best way to play Japanese games on original hardware in north America ?
I know about removing the snes tabs, but what about famicom ?

is the voltage difference important ?
what is the best solution ?

 
  Komrade

Well, Japanese consoles can be used in north america without issue, unlike PAL.

For famicom you just need an adapter. 60 pin to 72 pin and vice versa. I've been playing NES games on my av famicom for years now without issue.

 
  Gwaiilo

is it really safe to just plug it without concern ?
Japan is 100 volts & US is 120 volts

I'm not sure I feel comfortable overloading that extra 20 volts

 
  Lonne

I believe the adapter deals with any potential overloading

 
  Komrade

Well the alternative is to just get a famicom.

 
  Komrade

If it helps there are reputable sellers for converters out there. None of which I've ever heard having problems. Hell, Hudson Soft sold one years ago called the Honey Bee

 
  Timmiluvs

It’s easier to just buy a Famicom than to use a pin converter on an NES because the converters can be hard to find and you also need a cloth strip to be able to actually remove the game from the console once it’s in there (unless you use a top loader).

And as others said, yes, JP console in America won’t blow up over any potential over loading, the AC adapter handles it. My source is I’ve been using JP consoles in America for years and none have gone kaboom. The only console I ever needed an adapter for was the iQue because it’s a Chinese/PAL console.

 
  Krayzar

If you have any hangups on third party solutions and you have any 5 screw games you don't like, you could use the Nintendo made adapter built in to one of those to play Famicom games.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BZuodDY8Yo8/Wg8HPsXXNYI/AAAAAAAASTE/LJpkTbuLzxY1lRhjPw1zh6X9fuw0we2awCLcBGAs/s640/nes-game-famicom-converter.jpg

I've done this for years.

 
  Liv

https://www.famicomworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=6933.0

If you own a "Sega MegaDrive/Genesis (Type-1) AC Adapter and the Sega Master System/SG-3000 AC Adapter" from your particular region, the Famicom will operate using that as normal. The little info found on SDA also seems to support this.

https://kb.speeddemosarchive.com/Nintendo_Console_Region

"(You can use a power supply from a Mega Drive 1 or Master System 1 (better to use)."

That thread suggests this stepdown transformer for use with Famicom in the USA: https://www.amazon.com/VCT-VT-1000J-Japanese-Transformer-Converts/dp/B000PC4SVU if you do not own either of the above AC adapters.

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  Timmiluvs

@Krayzar that method is horrible, those built in converters are rare and hard to find because they are only in random, early NES games. There’s only a couple games that always have one and those are usually pretty expensive. If you get lucky that’s one thing, but take it from someone who dumped $50 into used carts of games to try and find one - just buy a Famicom for $50-$80 on eBay.

 
  Krayzar

Looked it up, specifically these early games, though there might be others:

1942
Clu Clu Land
Donkey Kong Jr.
Duck Hunt
Elevator Action
Excitebike
Golf
Gumshoe
Gyromite
Hogan’s Alley
Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out!!
Pinball
Raid on Bungeling Bay
Rygar
Soccer
Stack Up
Tennis
Urban Champion
Wizards and Warriors
Wrecking Crew

And the estimated rarity is anywhere from 100k to 200k made like this. They may go for a lot sometimes, but they aren't exactly super rare.
Heck there's one on ebay right now for $25: https://www.ebay.com/i/152654582686?chn=ps

Check your 5 screws! You might be lucky. Could have one and not know it, like I did.

Generally though, I do agree that an AV famicom is the way to go.

 
  Komrade

AV famicom is great, it's my main system, but there's a sizable price difference compared to just an adapter

 
  Gwaiilo

so AV Famicom with Genesis powerblock ?

 
  Gwaiilo

so if the US block fits in the japanese console its gonna output the right voltage ?
i just dont feel safe when i dont understand it, im not saying its rocket science, but
i dont feel like i fully understand whats the proper way to do this

 
  Komrade

My AV famicom came with the power brick made for that console. It's all I've used for 4 years without issue. Not sure what the hesitation there is.

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  Krayzar

No, actually, the US ones output AC because most NES versions (if not all in my understanding) handle the conversion to DC in a power module on the system board. The Famicom expects DC from the adapter, and AC could potentially damage the system, so an NES power supply won't do.

Like @Komrade said, the power brick the AV Famicom comes with should work safely with a step down converter (as @Liv mentioned), and yes, according to my Google-Fu, a Genesis power brick might work as well. I only own a single Sega system (Dreamcast) so I can't really verify what I see on the net. Maybe someone else can better confirm that part.

These should be the specs of the required compatible power adaptor:

AC100V 50/60Hz 18VA
DC10V 850mA
+ ------ C------- -

Anything with those specs should work.

Honestly though, if you just want to play Japanese games on SOMETHING, you could just buy an Everdrive if you don't care much about playing the original carts themselves. Even for speedrunning, most leader boards accept them, and aside from a few edge cases, mapper support is perfect for a lot of Japanese games. Fair warning, they are about as much money as an AV Famicom though.

 
  Gwaiilo

I use an FPGA system (AVS) for famicom games, but using these systems for submitting a score or a speedrun are not accepted in all communities unfortunately

I guess I will try to find a decent step down converter...
I just think its weird how opinions vary on this subject.

some people go as far as to say that these converters are useless...
I just wish I understood electricity better to make an educated choice

 
  Krayzar

There's definitely a difference of opinion on the need for a step down converter. On the one hand, a 20% difference is well within tolerance for most consumer electronics, but on the other hand we're talking about tech that's close to 30 years old now. Whatever built in tolerance there was is probably a whole lot less tolerant now. If you do go the AV famicom route, personally, I'd get the converter.

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